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Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone

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612 points meetpateltech | 4 comments | 05 Feb 25 16:03 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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pmayrgundter ◴[05 Feb 25 16:54 UTC] No.42951372[source]▶
I tried voice chat. It's very good, except for the politics

We started talking about my plans for the day, and I said I was making chili. G asked if I have a recipe or if I needed one. I said, I started with Obama's recipe many years ago and have worked on it from there.

G gave me a form response that it can't talk politics.

Oh, I'm not talking politics, I'm talking chili.

G then repeated form response and tried to change conversation, and as long as I didn't use the O word, we were allowed to proceed. Phew

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xnorswap ◴[05 Feb 25 17:06 UTC] No.42951630[source]▶
I find it horrifying and dystopian that the part where it "Can't talk politics" is just accepted and your complaint is that it interrupts your ability to talk chilli.

"Go back to bed America." "You are free, to do as we tell you"

https://youtu.be/TNPeYflsMdg?t=143

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1. freedomben ◴[05 Feb 25 17:17 UTC] No.42951817[source]▶
I agree it's ridiculous that the mention of a politician triggers the block so feels overly tightened (which is the story of existencer for Gemini), but the alternative is that the model will have the politics of it's creators/trainers. Is that preferable to you? (I suppose that depends on how well your politics align with Silicon Valley)
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2. danenania ◴[05 Feb 25 22:38 UTC] No.42956370[source]▶
I think it will still have the politics of its creators even if it’s censored with a superficial “no politics” rule. Politics is adjacent to almost everything, so it’s going to leak through no matter what you talk about.
3. nilamo ◴[06 Feb 25 03:49 UTC] No.42958837[source]▶
I think a personal assistant /ai agent that refuses to do its job is a problem, yes. "I'm sorry, Dave, but I'm afraid I can't talk about that."
4. spacebanana7 ◴[06 Feb 25 13:35 UTC] No.42962135[source]▶
They could allow users to choose the politics of their models.