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Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone

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612 points meetpateltech | 9 comments | 05 Feb 25 16:03 UTC | HN request time: 0.001s | source | bottom
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singhrac ◴[05 Feb 25 16:51 UTC] No.42951332[source]▶
What is the model I get at gemini.google.com (i.e. through my Workspace subscription)? It says "Gemini Advanced" but there are no other details. No model selection option.

I find the lack of clarity very frustrating. If I want to try Google's "best" model, should I be purchasing something? AI Studio seems focused around building an LLM wrapper app, but I just want something to answer my questions.

Edit: what I've learned through Googling: (1) if you search "is gemini advanced included with workspace" you get an AI overview answer that seems to be incorrect, since they now include Gemini Advanced (?) with every workspace subscription.(2) a page exists telling you to buy the add-on (Gemini for Google Workspace), but clicking on it says this is no longer available because of the above. (3) gemini.google.com says "Gemini Advanced" (no idea which model) at the top, but gemini.google.com/advanced redirects me to what I have deduced is the consumer site (?) which tells me that Gemini Advanced is another $20/month

The problem, Google PMs if you're reading this, is that the gemini.google.com page does not have ANY information about what is going on. What model is this? What are the limits? Do I get access to "Deep Research"? Does this subscription give me something in aistudio? What about code artifacts? The settings option tells me I can change to dark mode (thanks!).

Edit 2: I decided to use aistudio.google.com since it has a dropdown for me on my workspace plan.

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1. miyuru ◴[05 Feb 25 17:13 UTC] No.42951760[source]▶
changes must be rolling out now, I can see 3 Gemini 2.0 models in the dropdown, with blue "new" badges.

screenshot: https://beeimg.com/images/g25051981724.png

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2. singhrac ◴[05 Feb 25 17:28 UTC] No.42952009[source]▶
This works on my personal Google account, but not on my workspace one. So I guess there's no access to 2.0 Pro then? I'm ok trying out Flash for now and see if it fixes the mistakes I ran into yesterday.

Edit: it does not. It continues to miss the fact that I'm (incorrectly) passing in a scaled query tensor to scaled_dot_product_attention. o3-mini-high gets this right.

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3. vel0city ◴[05 Feb 25 18:59 UTC] No.42953404[source]▶
As someone with over a decade of Google Apps management history, my experiences is Workspace customers are practically always the last to get the shiny new features. Quite frustrating.
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4. panarky ◴[05 Feb 25 20:13 UTC] No.42954466[source]▶
If you subscribe to Gemini the menu looks like this, with the addition of 2.0 Pro.

https://imgur.com/a/xZ7hzag

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5. basch ◴[05 Feb 25 20:29 UTC] No.42954647{3}[source]▶
Isn't that generally how it goes? Windows Vista was tested on consumers to make 7 Enterprise appropriate?
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6. glerk ◴[05 Feb 25 22:40 UTC] No.42956390[source]▶
It doesn't for workspace users. No dropdown appears.
7. OccamsMirror ◴[06 Feb 25 07:14 UTC] No.42959918{4}[source]▶
Except with Google you might never get the feature.

Still can't manage Google Workspace Calendar with Google Home, for instance. A feature that's been available for personal accounts for years.

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8. glonq ◴[06 Feb 25 16:54 UTC] No.42964215{3}[source]▶
Can confirm. I run my family on the free Google Workspace Starter edition that they offered years and years ago. And we are definitely second-class citizens when it comes to old, current, and new Google features.

TBH I'd love to find a way to disband everybody from the workspace but somehow keep their identity, history, photos, etc. Even if it meant getting new @gmail addresses.

9. glonq ◴[06 Feb 25 16:56 UTC] No.42964227{5}[source]▶
can't buy a youtube premium family subscription either, which sucks! also can't leave reviews in the google play store.