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ptero ◴[] No.42925410[source]
That's heavy editorializing:

El Salvador keeps buying the Bitcoin for its strategic reserve. Businesses and citizens can keep using it.

But for getting an IMF loan, IMF (which, to put it mildly, doesn't like Bitcoin) required the end to Bitcoin legal tender status.

Now the businesses are free to accept it or not instead of being required to accept it. That's all. The government plans to keep buying and using it.

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georgeecollins ◴[] No.42926067[source]
There seems to be two concepts that are getting conflated. One concept is that BTC is a good investment. Historically that is undeniable.

The other concept is that it is a good medium of exchange. I think that is not so true because 1) its neither cheap nor easy to buy a lot of things with it 2) a thing that goes up in value is not a good medium of exchange because people don't want to spend it, they want to hoard it.

If you accept that BTC is a reasonable investment, but not a great medium of exchange then what is happening makes sense.

I am not saying that a decentralized token couldn't be a good medium of exchange -- honestly I don't know. But so far BTC is not that.

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olalonde ◴[] No.42927500[source]
You're also conflating two distinct concepts: "Bitcoin the currency" and "Bitcoin the payment network."

The currency itself can be used independently of its base-layer network, which is intentionally slow and costly (functioning primarily as a settlement layer). This separation is enabled by off-chain or layer 2 systems, such as the Lightning Network or custodial platforms. These solutions retain Bitcoin's monetary benefits - like a predictable money supply, off/on ramping through the base layer - while enabling fast, cheap transactions. The tradeoff is that you must trust an intermediary, but this mirrors the same compromise inherent to digital USD payment systems (Venmo, credit cards, PayPal, etc.).

In fact, USD lacks a true "base layer" altogether. The closest equivalent would be the Federal Reserve Bank’s ledger, but accounts there are restricted to large financial institutions, not individuals.

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next_xibalba ◴[] No.42928070[source]
That’s a lot of words for “it cannot be used in everyday financial transactions”.
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1. toenail ◴[] No.42928993[source]
What do you mean, I use bitcoin and the lightning network all the time for small payments.
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2. yieldcrv ◴[] No.42930327[source]
I wish there was usdc over lightning

if there is, it’s poorly advertised

does seem like a huge swing and a miss for lightning to only have unstable value units of account going over it

the market clearly wants something else, and has that, on other networks at large volumes

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3. toenail ◴[] No.42930598[source]
https://docs.lightning.engineering/the-lightning-network/tap...
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4. yieldcrv ◴[] No.42931623{3}[source]
thanks! yes I mean to check on bitcoin after major network upgrades like Taproot. okay that article was last updated 10 months, how is that panning out with standardized protocols and wallet integration and issuance?

I’m curious where the communities about this are, or are nowadays

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5. toenail ◴[] No.42934191{4}[source]
I personally have no need for "stable" assets, so I don't know more than that they exist.
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6. npoc ◴[] No.42948064{5}[source]
Same here. I'd rather hold and use an asset that unstably increases in value greatly over time, than one which continuously goes down in value to 0 (all fiat currencies go to zero eventually)