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leshokunin ◴[] No.42176328[source]
The constant Russian interference, combined with the regular escalation from the jets patrolling, and the radar jamming, really needs to be dealt with.

We're stuck between having to do timid actions and full NATO escalation. This feels like constant creep.

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JumpCrisscross ◴[] No.42176978[source]
> We're stuck between having to do timid actions and full NATO escalation

If only there were someone applying pressure to Russia we could have fight for us!

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PKop ◴[] No.42177095[source]
So sacrifice more Ukrainian men for the meat grinder? What has that accomplished so far?
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marssaxman ◴[] No.42177189[source]
What business is that of ours? It's up to the Ukrainians what they are willing to do in defense of their country.
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PKop ◴[] No.42177221[source]
>we could have fight for us

C'mon. Their funding is entirely US dependent. What business is that of ours? We are enabling it. How could you possibly ask the question "what business is that of ours"? Explain yourself, that question is absurd.

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JumpCrisscross ◴[] No.42177245[source]
> What business is that of ours? We are enabling it.

They clearly want to fight! This is like arguing giving someone chemo is enabling their cancer.

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PKop ◴[] No.42177278[source]
Who is "they" and what is "clearly"? They are running out of men they can find to fight, and for quite a while the government and military used very aggressive methods to force men into service. There is a huge desertion problem, in the military and the country itself. A whole lot of Ukrainians do not want to fight.

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/ukraine-running-out-s...

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1. immibis ◴[] No.42190724{3}[source]
I guess you're right. Ukraine should let Russia exterminate the Ukrainians. 3 times as many people will die as died in the German extermination regime, but it's worth it to avoid conscription, right?