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Two undersea cables in Baltic Sea disrupted

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euroderf ◴[18 Nov 24 20:34 UTC] No.42176649[source]▶
So what's the solution ? Assign a surveillance UAV to every Russian ship parked "without a good reason" over a cable ? It would be expensive, but doable, and create a reserve of vehicles for wartime use.
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regnull ◴[18 Nov 24 20:50 UTC] No.42176841[source]▶
The solution is to project strength and hit them where they don't expect. You are dealing with a thug, not a cost/benefit accountant, as Obama seemed to mistakenly believe. As long as they do things and we respond, nothing good will happen. They have already calculated the response and found it acceptable. Instead of this, go to the mattresses. Oh, your bridge has suddenly exploded? Shame.
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petre ◴[18 Nov 24 21:01 UTC] No.42176982[source]▶
"We" already screwed their pipeline, what's left? Provide Ukraine with the means to blow up the Kerch bridge maybe? They're the ones that could legitimately do that sort of escalation.
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JumpCrisscross ◴[18 Nov 24 21:09 UTC] No.42177070[source]▶
> what's left?

The other pipelines. Their shadow oil fleet. There are lots of options. But to my knowledge, only the British, French and Americans are capable of the long-range clandestine operations.

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petre ◴[18 Nov 24 21:13 UTC] No.42177105[source]▶
Their shadow oil fleet is operated by third parties and shell companies. We are dealing with a mafia state here.

https://windward.ai/knowledge-base/illuminating-russias-shad...

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JumpCrisscross ◴[18 Nov 24 21:18 UTC] No.42177161[source]▶
> Their shadow oil fleet is operated by third parties and shell companies

Would be a shame if they started having engine troubles in the middle of the ocean.

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1. geniusplanmate ◴[19 Nov 24 03:29 UTC] No.42179866[source]▶
1. They already do, because those are old, garbage ships

2. It's not exactly in the interests of NATO to have those ships start spilling tons of oil in the North Atlantic

The problem of that "shadow fleet" is precisely that those are old, uninsured vessels that cause environmental risks.

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2. JumpCrisscross ◴[19 Nov 24 04:25 UTC] No.42180097[source]▶
> not exactly in the interests of NATO to have those ships start spilling tons of oil in the North Atlantic

Since when did engine troubles cause an oil spill?

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3. aziaziazi ◴[19 Nov 24 05:33 UTC] No.42180339[source]▶
In case of an engine failure, it’s way more easier to tug the boat empty than full.
4. onionisafruit ◴[19 Nov 24 05:42 UTC] No.42180371[source]▶
Ever blown a head gasket?
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5. gnabgib ◴[19 Nov 24 05:48 UTC] No.42180394{3}[source]▶
Bit of a personal question
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6. instig007 ◴[19 Nov 24 12:39 UTC] No.42182773[source]▶
since the times ocean waves decided to wreck ships that can't turn and navigate in storms without their prime mover.
7. dgfitz ◴[19 Nov 24 16:00 UTC] No.42184919{4}[source]▶
Oh, its not. Why do you think that?