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    thepuppet33r ◴[] No.42175024[source]
    Yes, Google deserves to be distrusted and avoided as a whole, but Google Scholar is a genuinely net good for humanity.
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    dumpHero2 ◴[] No.42175704[source]
    I have similar feeing for Gmail (it's effective anti spam engine), google maps and google docs (which pioneered shared docs. It feels outdated on many fronts now, but it was a pioneer).
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    1. roflmaostc ◴[] No.42175773[source]
    anti-spam is only an issue if people dump their email anywhere. I usually register my mail on webpages as first.last+webpage@mail.com and once they would spam this mail, it gets blacklisted.

    I literally get only 1-3 real spam mails per month without any filter.

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    2. dripton ◴[] No.42175853[source]
    Words great, until a page rejects email with a '+' in it.
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    3. 6510 ◴[] No.42175970[source]
    dots are ignored, can filter by john.doe@gmail.com

    not sure about capital letters

    4. hks0 ◴[] No.42176067[source]
    Not everyone's cup of tea, but quite nice if one can afford it: I have my personal domain and a catch-all inbox. So if I want to register at acme-co.xyz I will just use acmecoxyz@my-domain.tld

    Maybe I should start using random words though? Wonder if someone will go bananas seeing their brand's name on my domain.

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    5. AshamedCaptain ◴[] No.42176089[source]
    Or just knows about this Gmail trick (it's been 20 years already) and sends spam to your real mailbox.

    Actually, I am surprised _any_ spammy website these days would even honor the part after the +, and not just directly send to the real mailbox name.

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    6. janalsncm ◴[] No.42176172[source]
    I see this recommendation everywhere and I am genuinely surprised that it works. Any spammer can find out your real address since there is an obvious mapping from + addresses to your real address. An actual solution would hide this mapping.
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    7. bachmeier ◴[] No.42176304[source]
    Yeah. Fastmail masked addresses are random. The best you can do is guess that an address might be masked, due to it not being johnsmith@fastmail.com, but it provides no information about your real email address.
    8. thechao ◴[] No.42177255{3}[source]
    I used to require a "+..." on all emails. Any email that didn't have the "+..." was sent to Spam automagically. My family were whitelisted. I gave up, because too many websites (early on) refused to take the "+..." marker, so I ended up losing too much to Spam. It's easier to just let Google sort it out.
    9. gnopgnip ◴[] No.42177362{3}[source]
    It's part of RFC 5233 Sieve Email Filtering: Subaddress Extension
    10. kroltan ◴[] No.42177840{3}[source]
    Yeah, I've had to explain that a couple times already, usually when dealing with customer support or in-person registrations.

    And a "malicious" actor can get away with pretending to be another company by spoofing the username if they know your domain works like that. I don't think this has reached spammers' repertoire yet, but I wouldn't be surprised.

    Eventually I'd like to have a way of generating random email addresses that accept mail on demand, and put everything else in quaraintine automatically.

    11. aorth ◴[] No.42182174{3}[source]
    Good resource on this trick from 2010. It's not Gmail specific.

    https://people.cs.rutgers.edu/~watrous/plus-signs-in-email-a...

    12. JW_00000 ◴[] No.42186581[source]
    Too late for most people.