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Two undersea cables in Baltic Sea disrupted

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597 points mooreds | 5 comments | 18 Nov 24 14:31 UTC | HN request time: 0.785s | source
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bell-cot ◴[18 Nov 24 14:56 UTC] No.42172843[source]▶
It'd be nice to see stories about a western navy or two getting off its butt, and actually trying to discourage "accidents" which damage critical infrastructure.
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pavel_lishin ◴[18 Nov 24 14:58 UTC] No.42172868[source]▶
On the other hand, I'd rather see cables get cut than watch shells get lobbed between world powers.
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myworkinisgood ◴[18 Nov 24 15:01 UTC] No.42172911[source]▶
at these points, these cable cuts are more dangerous than actual bombs
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1. pavel_lishin ◴[18 Nov 24 15:05 UTC] No.42172942[source]▶
I'm not convinced that cutting an internet cable - even a vital one - results in more actual death and human misery than actual bombs falling on urban centers.
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2. matthewdgreen ◴[18 Nov 24 15:06 UTC] No.42172963[source]▶
There is a point where this kind of aggression, left unchecked, may ultimately lead to actual bombs falling on urban centers. It's already happening in Ukraine. The global peace we all enjoy in the West is based on the idea that the price of aggression is higher than the benefits.
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3. matthewdgreen ◴[18 Nov 24 15:07 UTC] No.42172975[source]▶
There is a point where this kind of aggression, left unchecked, may ultimately lead to actual bombs falling on urban centers. It's already happening in the Ukraine. The global peace we all enjoy in the West is based on the idea that the price of aggression is higher than the benefits.

Also: Internet cables today, essential power distribution cables tomorrow. Infrastructure is fragile, and human lives will eventually be at stake.

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4. SiempreViernes ◴[18 Nov 24 15:13 UTC] No.42173025[source]▶
"this kind", "left unchecked", "may ultimately"; that's three levels of maybes used to defend a definitive "are more dangerous" claim, not exactly inspiring rigour.
5. pavel_lishin ◴[18 Nov 24 15:15 UTC] No.42173055[source]▶
I mean, you're not wrong. And in general, this is ... high-stakes bullying. And if you let them get away with this, I agree that they'll keep pushing the boundary, even more than they already have;