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ndiddy ◴[] No.42158554[source]
Another similar incident happened around a week after that one: https://www.channel3000.com/news/dane-county-sheriffs-office... .

One thing to note is that the car doors in Teslas are electrically controlled and a different failsafe method of opening the doors is required when the electrical system isn't working. Here's the steps for manually opening the Model Y's rear doors (car in the story the post links to): https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/modely/en_us/GUID-AAD769C... and here's the steps for manually opening the Model S's rear doors (car in the story I linked to): https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/models/en_us/GUID-AAD769C... . Note that this involves removing the rear carpet in the Model S and the door pocket mat in the Model Y, and that the Model Y instructions note that some cars aren't even equipped with manual rear door releases. It seems like Tesla didn't account at all for what happens if passengers who aren't familiar with the car need to quickly exit in an emergency, especially if the driver's incapacitated and can't give them directions.

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1. giantg2 ◴[] No.42158811[source]
"Tesla didn't account at all for what happens ..."

Tesla might not have, but you can. Always have a glass breaker and seatbelt cutter in your vehicle. Doors get crumpled and can't open regardless of make/model.

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2. jeffbee ◴[] No.42158893[source]
"Police say area man had burglary tools and weapons in his vehicle at the time of the arrest..."
3. fallingsquirrel ◴[] No.42158976[source]
> Always have a glass breaker

Isn't this advice becoming dated now that most new cars have side windows with laminated glass?

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a28422725/car-windows-glas...

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4. dyauspitr ◴[] No.42159033[source]
Still probably easier to kick out a laminated window with cracks in it.
5. OutOfHere ◴[] No.42159186[source]
Kick out the window with a very forceful boot kick with both legs.
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6. viraptor ◴[] No.42159356{3}[source]
That advice will work for significantly limited number of population. Like, it's true, but also "hope you have enough mass/strength/flexibility". My little-old-lady neighbour could not do it.
7. giantg2 ◴[] No.42160357[source]
Usually rear windows do not. Even laminated side windows can be defeated more easily if cracked. The lamination is pretty thin compared to many other types of laminated glass.
8. tetha ◴[] No.42160671[source]
This is something I found worrying, tbh.

With tempered glass, firefighters heading for a vehicle accident attach glass breakers on a string to their gloves. That way, they can pull a person out of a car in 20 seconds if the immediate danger is larger than the medical considerations, and the person isn't stuck.

With laminated windows, you need a Halligan bar or some other poking tool (sometimes forcefully moving a spike towards a patient) to make a hole, a Sawzall which needs 10 seconds alone to go through common glass, time to get all of that...

It's worrying how much faster vehicle safety is moving compared to emergency extraction capabilities.