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First Impressions: Lenovo T14s with Qualcomm Snapdragon ARM64 CPU

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213 points cnst | 14 comments | 15 Nov 24 20:57 UTC | HN request time: 1.294s | source | bottom
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galkk ◴[15 Nov 24 21:33 UTC] No.42151363[source]▶
I love it(in context of FreeBSD):

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What does not work: Keyboard, mouse, TB & USB-C ports, thermal/freq mgt.

Conclusion: Highly recommended

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cnst ◴[15 Nov 24 22:12 UTC] No.42151800[source]▶
That was a bit ironic, indeed, but at least the USB-A works!

For what it's worth, the majority of mechanical RGB keyboards and mice are USB-A anyways, so, if you're fine with a very powerful machine that wouldn't have an internal keyboard support for a few weeks, sounds like a good advice anyways!

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glitchc ◴[16 Nov 24 00:41 UTC] No.42153045[source]▶
An ARM64 is "a very powerful computer"? The whole promise with ARM is better thermals and long battery life, not screaming performance. With the thermals/cpu not working, we don't even get that.
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1. viraptor ◴[16 Nov 24 02:00 UTC] No.42153474[source]▶
M4 crushing benchmarks and AWS running Graviton 2 would disagree on the idea of "whole premise".
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2. ksec ◴[16 Nov 24 02:18 UTC] No.42153567[source]▶
I always knew hardware discussions on HN were below the normal standards. But sometimes I am still surprised at how low it can go.
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3. simfree ◴[16 Nov 24 05:18 UTC] No.42154507[source]▶
The finer grained performance per watt vs silicon cost set in the context of use case is just lost in HN hardware conversations like this that ignore total cost of ownership, vendor politics and such.

Everyone is buying the tool that does the job, or building that tool if they want to make that large investment...

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4. ahoka ◴[16 Nov 24 08:14 UTC] No.42155219[source]▶
And it usually ends with some weird implied conclusion, like “AMD-Intel duopoly bad, Apple monopoly good”.
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5. llm_trw ◴[16 Nov 24 10:59 UTC] No.42155782{3}[source]▶
There's a difference in cost per flop at home and in a data center.

I'm updating my wiring and air conditioning for a 7x5090 workstation because having that power for experiments under the desk is worth the cost (and fire hazard).

If I had to build 10,000 of those I'd be banned by NVidia from ever buying their hardware again.

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6. maayank ◴[16 Nov 24 11:09 UTC] No.42155818{4}[source]▶
What are you doing with the workstation that it’s worth the cost?
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7. llm_trw ◴[16 Nov 24 11:15 UTC] No.42155838{5}[source]▶
High dimensional computations for time series data in finance.
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8. DeathArrow ◴[16 Nov 24 13:21 UTC] No.42156266[source]▶
If you consider Geekbench a good benchmark...
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9. DeathArrow ◴[16 Nov 24 13:24 UTC] No.42156276[source]▶
To me it seems some people developed some highly political or even religious views on tech. Truth doesn't matter as much as it used to. It's more of "I like the idea behind X, I think X is cool so X should be the best thing ever".
10. DeathArrow ◴[16 Nov 24 13:27 UTC] No.42156290{5}[source]▶
If I'd have those GPUs, I'd use them to run some AI models locally. But since I am not rich and I don't make money from that, I won't buy those GPUs.
11. DeathArrow ◴[16 Nov 24 13:29 UTC] No.42156300{3}[source]▶
I wonder what I would discover if I do some archeology and look at HN discussion when Apple used PowerPC CPUs.
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12. windexh8er ◴[16 Nov 24 13:51 UTC] No.42156418{4}[source]▶
Considering HN started in 2007 I don't think your expedition will yield a ton from the heyday of Mac PowerPC. Apple shipped the last PowerPC hardware in 2006.
13. maayank ◴[16 Nov 24 20:04 UTC] No.42158839{6}[source]▶
Private algotrading? Nice. May the odds be always at your favor!
14. hulitu ◴[20 Nov 24 11:46 UTC] No.42192976[source]▶
It is a start. A wrong one, but still a start. /s