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Please stop the coding challenges

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261 points CrazyEmi | 3 comments | 15 Nov 24 15:32 UTC | HN request time: 0.913s | source
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simonw ◴[15 Nov 24 16:00 UTC] No.42148072[source]▶
> This is like asking a Ruby developer to debug PHP as a test of flexibility.

Sounds like an OK test to me. Great (senior) developers should be able to do that kind of thing. Categorizing yourself exclusively as "a Ruby developer" is a career trap.

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makk ◴[15 Nov 24 16:07 UTC] No.42148141[source]▶
> Categorizing yourself exclusively as "a Ruby developer" is a career trap.

And a lucrative one at that.

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bluedevilzn ◴[15 Nov 24 16:12 UTC] No.42148201[source]▶
It’s lucrative if your bar is 6 figures.

No engineer that makes 7 figures calls themselves a ruby developer with the exception of DHH.

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Xelynega ◴[15 Nov 24 16:16 UTC] No.42148247[source]▶
Isn't the average for software developers in the US ~100k(before taxes)?

Assuming that high earners are offsetting that to the higher end, most people aren't making 6 figures, and the bar isn't which language they're programming in.

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duped ◴[15 Nov 24 16:26 UTC] No.42148366[source]▶
100k is on the lower end of junior salary
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Jtsummers ◴[15 Nov 24 16:35 UTC] No.42148446[source]▶
https://www.bls.gov/ooh/computer-and-information-technology/...

Junior salaries go down much lower than $100k.

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1. duped ◴[15 Nov 24 18:19 UTC] No.42149454[source]▶
That doesn't match my experience on both ends of the hiring table. And forgive me if forwarding the BLS statistics to candidates doesn't get them to accept offers, because I know it wouldn't help me when I can get paid a lot more elsewhere.
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2. Jtsummers ◴[15 Nov 24 18:28 UTC] No.42149521[source]▶
> That doesn't match my experience on both ends of the hiring table.

Congratulations, your experience is limited. The BLS stats represent the actual US salary data, not just your limited experience. If you want to make a claim about salaries in the US then look at data across the US and not just whatever is true within your limited bubble.

> And forgive me if forwarding the BLS statistics to candidates doesn't get them to accept offers

Did I ever even suggest such a thing?

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3. duped ◴[15 Nov 24 19:10 UTC] No.42149881[source]▶
I take the BLS numbers with a huge grain of salt, they are useful for identifying trends and not absolute facts on the ground.

> Did I ever even suggest such a thing?

My point is that the BLS doesn't set market rates or report on them.