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louthy ◴[] No.42129500[source]
If anyone's interested and wants to hear more, I have a mix of 92/93 era Jungle [1]

Some rough mixes here and there (especially the first one) because it was live from a NYE event. But it suits the style of music, that era was so raw and fresh, the future was being invented right there! Very happy days :)

1) DJ SS - Intro

2) Higher Sense - Cold Fresh Air

3) Deep Blue - The Helicopter Tune

4) Roni Size - Time Stretch (93 Mix)

5) DMS & The Boneman X - Sweet Vibrations

6) Engineers Without Fears - Spiritual Aura

7) Omni Trio - Soul Promenade

8) Codename John - Kindred

9) Brainkillers - Screwface

10) Dubtronix - Fantasy (Remix)

11) M-Beat - Incredible

12) DJ Rap - Your Mind (Gimp/Steve Mix)

13) Asend & Ultravibe - What Kind Of World

14) LTJ Bukem – Horizons

15) Bruck Wild - Silent Dub

[1] https://on.soundcloud.com/WjQVyJRfYMyQLP3f8

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dylan604 ◴[] No.42130087[source]
> that era was so raw and fresh, the future was being invented right there! Very happy days

I've been told by several Gen-Z that they've never been to a "rave", and I feel sorry for them. In my town, we had quite the underground scene, but then times changed and it is so much smaller now. Now, "kids" just call it all EDM instead of the specific genre that we know and love.

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louthy ◴[] No.42130256[source]
There's still plenty of fresh underground music and the 'kids' are doing just fine. Yeah there's loads of mainstream garbage out there, but there always was. The main difference is that this stuff was being invented, whereas most electronic music now is derived from those early 90s invented genres, but even saying that there's still plenty of creativity.

There's a night in London called Cartulis (which is usually at Fold), when I go there it feels very much like the early rave scene to me (this is just one example, of course). I think there's a tendency when we get older to not be as exposed to the bubbling undercurrent of music, so it's easy to just say "it's not as good as it used to be", but that would be a mistake imho. It's there if you look for it.

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CuriouslyC ◴[] No.42131229[source]
I'm interested in a lot of subculture music, and it really isn't there like it was for the most part. Most families of music seem to have stagnated or regressed. The early 90s gangster rap is definitely superior to mumble rap/emo rap, the 90s IDM/jungle/trance is superior to modern EDM/house/trap and the pop mainstream now is just garbage compared to the the mainstream from the late 80s/90s.

Mixing and production are worlds better and musicianship has improved compared to where it was for genres where people care about musicianship, but the actual music is mostly either painfully derivative or actively worse because it's trying too hard to be "different."

Modern metal is amazing compared to the stuff from the 90s though.

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helboi4 ◴[] No.42135336[source]
Tell me you're out of the loop without telling me you're out of the loop. As someone in my mid 20s, techno music is booming and it has zero EDM/house/trap influences. Everyone my age thinks EDM is cringe, it was a trend of 10 years ago. Go to actually underground sound clubs if you know where they are. I'm guessing you don't, because you're showing how ignorant you are of the scene. Some recently released tracks I picked up as a young techno DJ just in the last few weeks/months:

https://soundcloud.com/kmyle/kmyle-empire-bns089?si=0ce480e4...

https://soundcloud.com/kmyle/kmyle-cocoon-original-mix?si=73...

https://soundcloud.com/hate_music/premiere-introversion-sea-...

https://soundcloud.com/regalmusic/regal-undisputed?si=a6bdf3...

https://soundcloud.com/darko-esser/darko-esser-zondag-2008?s...

https://soundcloud.com/hate_music/premiere-wtchcrft-new-frie...

https://soundcloud.com/hate_music/premiere-marco-bailey-trai...

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CuriouslyC ◴[] No.42136512[source]
I was listening to minimal techno before you were born friend (check out drumcode/derrick may). I go to festivals and you will never hear it.
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helboi4 ◴[] No.42136747[source]
Bro talks to me like I don't know what Drumcode is. The biggest titan in techno music to the point that people literally call it "business techno" because it's so oversaturated. Yeah I know drumcode. I know who Derrick May is, I don't know what sort of thumb-sucking 14 year old you think you're talking to. Derrick May is not by any stretch of the imagination a purely minimal techno artist. He literally made Strings of Life which is one of the least fucking minimal things I've ever heard.

You're right, minimal techno is not the most popular form of techno right now. That's not a new thing that happened in this decade though. Techno has been going through trends of being faster and more maximalist vs slower and minimalist since it began. I'm sorry that you're struggling to find minimal techno nights to your liking, I'm sure there are some out there and I'm sure the trend will come back around. But the techno of my generation is not all EDM or trap influenced so I know you're talking out your ass. You may have been to many techno events in your life, but what you're saying here just proves you're out of the loop like many nostalgic oldheads. So maybe just take a step back and consider that you may have lost touch with the underground. You certainly have if you think drumcode is an underground reference these days.

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1. CuriouslyC ◴[] No.42136789[source]
I can tell you're an angry person. You should try punching a bag instead of raging at people online.

If I have to go to a club in new york or berlin to hear music it's not culturally relevant. The stuff you linked gets zero play at festivals.

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2. helboi4 ◴[] No.42136828[source]
When you're condescending and make bad faith arguments, people will find you frustrating. I'm not sure why you want to emulate your grandparents by dismissing younger people's creativity just like they did to you. Open your mind a bit and try not to become the people you hated.

Edit: Festivals have never been the beating heart of the techno scene my friend. I'm sorry to break it to you. And again, I've been to good festivals which do play this stuff - you clearly don't know where to go and you're taking it out on my generation when its on YOU.

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3. CamperBob2 ◴[] No.42138675[source]
This thread is an artform in itself. Anthropology students will dig it up a thousand years from now and walk away with inadequately-paying degrees.
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4. henjodottech ◴[] No.42159682{3}[source]
I’m taking notes