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    1. vunderba ◴[] No.42064100[source]
    They're being purposely coy though on what this actually means. Backwards compatibility with digital/e-games, or backwards compatible with the physical carts?
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    2. antonyt ◴[] No.42064225[source]
    I'd be shocked if it doesn't support physical carts, given Nintendo's history with backwards compatibility. And given the rough equivalence of digital games and carts on the Switch, I'm hoping that means digital purchases transfer too - but that would be a first for Nintendo, I think. Fingers crossed!
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    3. tastyfreeze ◴[] No.42064446[source]
    There isn't a technical reason to change the cartridge format. I don't see why they wouldn't just use the same carts if backwards compatibility is the goal.
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    4. WhereIsTheTruth ◴[] No.42064591[source]
    there always is:

    - smaller

    - energy efficient

    - cost saving

    and they are all valid reasons, it's a handheld, the form factor will evolve until perfected

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    5. micromacrofoot ◴[] No.42065328{3}[source]
    they could have made them smaller the first time around, but I have to imagine they intentionally chose not to — we have to remember that they're also optimizing these things for children... so smaller isn't always better for things like swallowing (which is why they add a bitterant to the current cards)
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    6. toast0 ◴[] No.42065344{3}[source]
    The carts are already plenty small. Yes, they could be smaller, but any smaller (without being downloads only) and they'd be difficult to handle.

    For cost, they could likely reduce the pincount for new cartridges, by changing the number of data pins, but that doesn't preclude using the same slot. Reducing cost of cartridges is more effective than reducing the cost of the console. Reducing pin count would probably save more money than shrinking the small amount of plastic case.

    For energy efficiency, maybe they can eliminate 3.3v and only keep 1.8v for new carts, maybe redesign the insertion detection pins to detect old and new.

    7. mkjonesuk ◴[] No.42065943[source]
    There are now cart dumpers that can copy and store multiple Switch games on an SD card. If the same form factor is used its likely these will still work for original Switch games.
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    8. vundercind ◴[] No.42066532{4}[source]
    Even at the size they are, I wish they were closer to GBA—cart sized.
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    9. jerf ◴[] No.42066632{3}[source]
    I would be unsurprised if the cartridge has the same form factor but has internal differences for Switch2-only games. If they want to try to lock Switch2 cartridges down more, there's plenty of ways to do that while maintaining a similar enough form factor for Switch1 compatibility.
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    10. CountHackulus ◴[] No.42068107[source]
    Because they can get more money by selling the same game twice. But they can still claim backwards compatibility with download-only games.
    11. taikahessu ◴[] No.42068666{5}[source]
    You wouldn't vacuum a cartridge.
    12. hbn ◴[] No.42069711[source]
    From what I understand, people are much more into physical media in Japan. Nintendo also actually finishes their games and gets a working build ready before release so the carts actually have a game on them that don't require a patch, which is unfortunately not standard across the industry.
    13. CatWChainsaw ◴[] No.42070266[source]
    I don't game nearly as much anymore but my understanding is that Nintendo may be the last console maker to regularly produce physical games. Newest Xbox doesn't even have an optical disk drive, I believe?

    Nintendo also seems to be the least price gouge-y, in terms of lootboxes and microtransactions and other bullshit. Now I wish that didn't come with the tradeoff of them being completely anal when it comes to people posting OSTs online but I guess I'll take it.

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    14. mattl ◴[] No.42071793[source]
    You could transfer your digital games from the Wii to the Wii U, but it wasn't done for you.
    15. mattl ◴[] No.42071803{4}[source]
    I suspect the cartridge will be similar but have a notch on it that prevents it being inserted into a Switch console.

    This is how Game Boy Color, DSi and 3DS systems handled being able to accept games from older models worked.

    16. Uvix ◴[] No.42072274[source]
    The newest Xbox model doesn't have any new features; they stripped the drive so they could offer a lower-cost model. And while the newest PlayStation model doesn't have a drive, they sell one separately. So physical games are still alive and well for all three competitors.