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373 points h2odragon | 16 comments | 19 Oct 24 17:27 UTC | HN request time: 0.001s | source | bottom
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rglullis ◴[19 Oct 24 19:05 UTC] No.41889863[source]▶
I am seriously considering creating a dropship company focused exclusively on buying and selling electronic components that are sold for parts and people can assemble them at home, Ikea-style.

I would start with selling 50" and 65" inch "dumb" TVs. Just the panel, a nice enclosure and a board with an IR receiver, TV tuner and HDMI outputs. BYO top box and Soundbar. I wonder how fast it would take to get 10000 orders.

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mhuffman ◴[19 Oct 24 20:02 UTC] No.41890336[source]▶
You can search NewEgg or Amazon for "Business TV" or "Commercial TV" and they will almost all be "dumb" TVs. They are readily available.
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ska ◴[19 Oct 24 20:13 UTC] No.41890422[source]▶
Readily available at a good premium.

You can sometimes get a great deal on these during liquidation though.

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1. stavros ◴[19 Oct 24 20:27 UTC] No.41890532[source]▶
Nope, you're getting the ad-infested TVs for a good discount.
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2. kibwen ◴[19 Oct 24 20:31 UTC] No.41890558[source]▶
Well, they're at a discount if your privacy has no value.
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3. rowanG077 ◴[19 Oct 24 20:32 UTC] No.41890568[source]▶
I really doubt manufacturer lose money on smart tv sales.
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4. avmich ◴[19 Oct 24 20:47 UTC] No.41890668[source]▶
You have to decide what's more valuable to you - an extra chunk of money or the privacy which is endangered with the cheaper option.
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5. water-your-self ◴[19 Oct 24 21:24 UTC] No.41890891[source]▶
I wanted to find a reputable source to back up this claim but instead I found a link from the atlantic. I did not read it, its behind a paywall and its not peer reviewed. The general concensus is that smart = subsidized by adware

https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2023/01/smart...

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6. stavros ◴[19 Oct 24 21:29 UTC] No.41890920[source]▶
No, they're at a discount period. They're sold for less money.
7. gradstudent ◴[19 Oct 24 21:50 UTC] No.41891027{3}[source]▶
> I did not read it, its behind a paywall

Browse to the article, click reader mode, click refresh. Might need to be in a private window, in case of cookie shenanigans.

8. rowanG077 ◴[19 Oct 24 22:22 UTC] No.41891245{3}[source]▶
The link simply states that they make a lot of money from the malware on TVs, something I'm not disputing. I am disputing that if I would buy a TV burn it without ever turning it on they manufacturer would lose money. In essence: The ads are simply pure profit on top of the TV sale.
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9. ska ◴[20 Oct 24 00:56 UTC] No.41892040[source]▶
Are you claiming that the delta is entirely covered by the fees payed to manufacturers to add apps, ads, etc?
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10. stavros ◴[20 Oct 24 01:42 UTC] No.41892246[source]▶
Yes, how else would it be covered?
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11. ska ◴[20 Oct 24 03:32 UTC] No.41892661{3}[source]▶
By increased margins? Common enough when your target market is not consumer.
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12. snowe2010 ◴[20 Oct 24 07:20 UTC] No.41893572{4}[source]▶
Then the equivalent business tvs with no apps wouldn’t be thousands of dollars more.
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13. ska ◴[20 Oct 24 16:50 UTC] No.41896685{5}[source]▶
This is backwards, increased margin would allow exactly that without all of it being covered by increased cogs.
14. therealdrag0 ◴[20 Oct 24 20:14 UTC] No.41898163{4}[source]▶
I literally only use my smart tv with external devices. There’s no TV ads I see.
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15. account42 ◴[21 Oct 24 12:48 UTC] No.41903599{3}[source]▶
You do not get to decide because privacy concious options are simply not available at the high end. You'd also need to significantly compromise on quality.
16. account42 ◴[21 Oct 24 12:50 UTC] No.41903613{5}[source]▶
Cool bro. How does this relate to the discussion about whether smart TVs are sold below cost though?