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373 points h2odragon | 19 comments | 19 Oct 24 17:27 UTC | HN request time: 2.199s | source | bottom
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rglullis ◴[19 Oct 24 19:05 UTC] No.41889863[source]▶
I am seriously considering creating a dropship company focused exclusively on buying and selling electronic components that are sold for parts and people can assemble them at home, Ikea-style.

I would start with selling 50" and 65" inch "dumb" TVs. Just the panel, a nice enclosure and a board with an IR receiver, TV tuner and HDMI outputs. BYO top box and Soundbar. I wonder how fast it would take to get 10000 orders.

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mhuffman ◴[19 Oct 24 20:02 UTC] No.41890336[source]▶
You can search NewEgg or Amazon for "Business TV" or "Commercial TV" and they will almost all be "dumb" TVs. They are readily available.
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1. ska ◴[19 Oct 24 20:13 UTC] No.41890422[source]▶
Readily available at a good premium.

You can sometimes get a great deal on these during liquidation though.

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2. stavros ◴[19 Oct 24 20:27 UTC] No.41890532[source]▶
Nope, you're getting the ad-infested TVs for a good discount.
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3. kibwen ◴[19 Oct 24 20:31 UTC] No.41890558[source]▶
Well, they're at a discount if your privacy has no value.
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4. rowanG077 ◴[19 Oct 24 20:32 UTC] No.41890568[source]▶
I really doubt manufacturer lose money on smart tv sales.
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5. avmich ◴[19 Oct 24 20:47 UTC] No.41890668{3}[source]▶
You have to decide what's more valuable to you - an extra chunk of money or the privacy which is endangered with the cheaper option.
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6. dylan604 ◴[19 Oct 24 21:00 UTC] No.41890763[source]▶
> Readily available at a good premium.

You have this backwards. The consumer "smart" units are subsidized by the monetization of the data they hoover up as you use it. This subsidized price has become accepted as normal price, but they clearly are discounted prices.

Yeah yeah, economy of scale on consumer vs prosumer+ units, but if you really believe that is the sole reason you are sorely mistaken

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7. water-your-self ◴[19 Oct 24 21:24 UTC] No.41890891{3}[source]▶
I wanted to find a reputable source to back up this claim but instead I found a link from the atlantic. I did not read it, its behind a paywall and its not peer reviewed. The general concensus is that smart = subsidized by adware

https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2023/01/smart...

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8. stavros ◴[19 Oct 24 21:29 UTC] No.41890920{3}[source]▶
No, they're at a discount period. They're sold for less money.
9. gradstudent ◴[19 Oct 24 21:50 UTC] No.41891027{4}[source]▶
> I did not read it, its behind a paywall

Browse to the article, click reader mode, click refresh. Might need to be in a private window, in case of cookie shenanigans.

10. rowanG077 ◴[19 Oct 24 22:22 UTC] No.41891245{4}[source]▶
The link simply states that they make a lot of money from the malware on TVs, something I'm not disputing. I am disputing that if I would buy a TV burn it without ever turning it on they manufacturer would lose money. In essence: The ads are simply pure profit on top of the TV sale.
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11. ska ◴[20 Oct 24 00:56 UTC] No.41892040[source]▶
Are you claiming that the delta is entirely covered by the fees payed to manufacturers to add apps, ads, etc?
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12. stavros ◴[20 Oct 24 01:42 UTC] No.41892246{3}[source]▶
Yes, how else would it be covered?
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13. ska ◴[20 Oct 24 03:32 UTC] No.41892661{4}[source]▶
By increased margins? Common enough when your target market is not consumer.
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14. snowe2010 ◴[20 Oct 24 07:20 UTC] No.41893572{5}[source]▶
Then the equivalent business tvs with no apps wouldn’t be thousands of dollars more.
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15. ska ◴[20 Oct 24 16:50 UTC] No.41896685{6}[source]▶
This is backwards, increased margin would allow exactly that without all of it being covered by increased cogs.
16. therealdrag0 ◴[20 Oct 24 20:14 UTC] No.41898163{5}[source]▶
I literally only use my smart tv with external devices. There’s no TV ads I see.
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17. account42 ◴[21 Oct 24 12:47 UTC] No.41903587[source]▶
You are assuming that consumer electronic devices are sold at cost and not at whatever markup that the manufactuer thinks they can get away with.
18. account42 ◴[21 Oct 24 12:48 UTC] No.41903599{4}[source]▶
You do not get to decide because privacy concious options are simply not available at the high end. You'd also need to significantly compromise on quality.
19. account42 ◴[21 Oct 24 12:50 UTC] No.41903613{6}[source]▶
Cool bro. How does this relate to the discussion about whether smart TVs are sold below cost though?