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US probes Tesla's Full Self-Driving software after fatal crash

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410 points jjulius | 5 comments | 18 Oct 24 16:01 UTC | HN request time: 0.205s | source
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massysett ◴[19 Oct 24 02:14 UTC] No.41885131[source]▶
"Tesla says on its website its FSD software in on-road vehicles requires active driver supervision and does not make vehicles autonomous."

Despite it being called "Full Self-Driving."

Tesla should be sued out of existence.

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m463 ◴[19 Oct 24 04:32 UTC] No.41885656[source]▶
I believe it's called "Full Self Driving (Supervised)"
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1. maeil ◴[19 Oct 24 06:58 UTC] No.41886156[source]▶
The part in parentheses has only recently been added.
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2. rsynnott ◴[19 Oct 24 14:18 UTC] No.41887897[source]▶
And is, well, entirely contradictory. An absolute absurdity; what happens when the irresistible force of the legal department meets the immovable object of marketing.
3. tharant ◴[19 Oct 24 17:29 UTC] No.41889157[source]▶
Prior to that, FSD was labeled ‘Full Self Driving (Beta)’ and enabling it triggered a modal that required two confirmations explaining that the human driver must always pay attention and is ultimately responsible for the vehicle. The feature also had/has active driver monitoring (via both vision and steering-torque sensors) that would disengage FSD if the driver ignored the loud audible alarm to “Pay attention”. Since changing the label to ‘(Supervised)’, the audible nag is significantly reduced.
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4. tsimionescu ◴[20 Oct 24 10:19 UTC] No.41894365[source]▶
The problem is not so much the lack of disclaimers, it is the adberitising. Tesla is asking for something like 15 000 dollars for access to this "beta", and you don't get two modal dialogs before you sign up for that.

This is called "false advertising", and even worse - recognizing revenue on a feature you are not delivering (a beta is not a delivered feature) is not GAAP.

5. rty32 ◴[20 Oct 24 14:37 UTC] No.41895640[source]▶
Do they have warnings as big as "full self driving" texts in advertisements? And if it is NOT actually full self driving, why call it full self driving?

That's just false advertising. You can't get around that.

I can't believe our current laws let Tesla get away like that.