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ajkjk ◴[] No.41859541[source]
There are so many things like this that have needed fixing for such a long time. The fact that something is happening, even slowly, is so heartening.

If your reaction is wondering if this is legal then you should be interested in the passing of new laws that make it unequivocally legal. Society should be able to govern itself.

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rachofsunshine ◴[] No.41860003[source]
This feels like one of those things that could be solved on the payment end with something like a unique payment ID for each subscription, rather than giving a CC number. Then you just enable or disable payment IDs (perhaps for a limited time, e.g., "create a payment ID that works for Netflix for the next three months but not after that"), rather than relying on vendors to decide whether they feel like charging you or not.
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datadrivenangel ◴[] No.41860086[source]
The problem, is that not paying does not get you out of the legal obligation to pay. Most companies won't follow up because the cost isn't worth it, but there are definitely organizations that will go after you or sell your debts to collection agencies...

The marginal cost to a gym/ISP of the remaining duration of your contract is basically zero, especially if you're not going to use it, and they can get a few more dollars by being a jackass about it. In aggregate the incentives dominate.

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stevenally ◴[] No.41860236[source]
Yes. The problem is the current law. Which needs to be changed. Make these predatory contracts illegal.
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candiddevmike ◴[] No.41860543[source]
I don't think this is a bad idea. Each month you would confirm whether you want to continue with the service, and if you say no or don't respond, it stops. If you think this would be annoying, then pay for a year (or more) in advance. This method would in theory reduce/remove the ability for folks to perform mid-month chargebacks under the guise of "I forgot to cancel".
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CSMastermind ◴[] No.41860970[source]
I don't think you even have to be that extreme.

Just make it so that you can remove the authorization of vendors to charge you. You see a vendor charging you for a service you no longer want - click a button and remove their authorization to charge you.

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1. FireBeyond ◴[] No.41861309[source]
Yet currently, we have the opposite, financial institutions will "helpfully" update your card details with merchants you have recurring charges with.

Years ago at Key Bank I even argued with a teller and manager about blocking a recalcitrant merchant from charging our account, "But you have ongoing charges with them and if we decline the transaction..."

Yeah, that's between me and them, you shouldn't be inserting into this to 'obligate' me to pay.