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1737 points pseudolus | 5 comments | 16 Oct 24 13:09 UTC | HN request time: 0.001s | source
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ajkjk ◴[16 Oct 24 14:37 UTC] No.41859541[source]▶
There are so many things like this that have needed fixing for such a long time. The fact that something is happening, even slowly, is so heartening.

If your reaction is wondering if this is legal then you should be interested in the passing of new laws that make it unequivocally legal. Society should be able to govern itself.

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thefourthchime ◴[16 Oct 24 15:41 UTC] No.41860390[source]▶
Now, let's institute an actual price rule. I can't rent an Airbnb or book a plane ticket without being lied to about what the actual prices is.
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cogman10 ◴[16 Oct 24 15:51 UTC] No.41860538[source]▶
"Fees" on top of the top line price should be illegal. It's just a way to smuggle in a 100% increase in the purchase price to get an initial buy in for a product. It is super scammy.

Heck, I would even take this a step further and say that taxes as well should always be fully included in the topline price. If a company wants to add a breakdown of how much went to taxes, I'm ok with that.

The sticker price should always be the full price.

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VBprogrammer ◴[16 Oct 24 16:13 UTC] No.41860843[source]▶
As a British person this is always so alien when traveling in the US. You could go one step further and suggest that perhaps tips which are practically mandatory should be included in the headline price but that might be a step too far.
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1. mholm ◴[16 Oct 24 16:18 UTC] No.41860907[source]▶
Many restaurants have tried this, and end up switching back because comparing prices to other restaurants puts them at a disadvantage. I think the only way for it to happen is regulation that forces it. Might as well include taxes in that price too.
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2. uxp100 ◴[16 Oct 24 17:07 UTC] No.41861363[source]▶
Staff often doesn’t like it either. Probably some combination of actually making less money and being overly optimistic about what they would be making if they were getting tips. a bar I was aware of that advertised paying $20+ and hour with no tips switched to a tipped model due to staff complaints.
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3. ruined ◴[16 Oct 24 17:18 UTC] No.41861467[source]▶
it sounds like what happened is management simply did not replace the tipped wage with an appropriate flat wage. if management provided a satisfactory wage, nobody would complain.
4. bobthepanda ◴[16 Oct 24 17:20 UTC] No.41861487[source]▶
there would be a rough transition period, but i do believe that in countries where tipping is not the norm, places just pay more to get better stuff the way non-tipped labor already works.

one of the breweries i live by recently moved from non-tipped to tip, and it's generally a disliked change from what I hear because most of the time the brewery is open it's not busy enough to make up for the loss in wages, and then people fight over the really busy shifts.

5. datavirtue ◴[16 Oct 24 17:46 UTC] No.41861734[source]▶
The best employees complain loudly. End of discussion on that one.