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Bostonian[dead post] ◴[12 Nov 23 13:06 UTC] No.38239738[source]▶
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soulofmischief ◴[12 Nov 23 13:12 UTC] No.38239773[source]▶
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime_in_the_United_S...

Explanations for racial discrepancies include:

- Discrimination by law enforcement

- Childhood exposure to violence

- Inability to post bail

- Socioeconomic factors

- Housing segregation

- Sociocultural factors

This is pretty well-known stuff. Please educate yourself.

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carstenhag ◴[12 Nov 23 13:26 UTC] No.38239861[source]▶
I hope no one is arguing with "a person's skin color influences how much criminal energy they get born with".

With your cited explanations, it seems to be easy to generalise and say "a black person that I meet will be more criminal than the next white person that I meet", just because of the reasons you listed, except for law enforcement & the bail thing. Which also seems wrong to me.

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soulofmischief ◴[12 Nov 23 13:29 UTC] No.38239887[source]▶
The best way to interpret the data is to be conscious of the fact that individuals you interact with or cast judgement upon might not be dealing with nearly the same world that you deal with. That they may be more predisposed to certain negative outcomes. It is too easy to take this for granted.

I'm not black but I can list several factors that contribute to my own such predispositions, such as having drug addicted parents who were not present in my life, living with extremely abusive, cultist guardians, being homeless at 16, etc. The fact of life is that we must recognize these probabilities if we have any hope of improving our own conditions, or the conditions of others.

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1. jtdev ◴[12 Nov 23 13:32 UTC] No.38239914[source]▶
“Sorry that you were violently attacked, but please consider the socioeconomic factors.”
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2. willcipriano ◴[12 Nov 23 13:55 UTC] No.38240082[source]▶
"What are you doing about the socioeconomic factors then?"

"Can't afford it, have to send billions to Israel and Ukraine."

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3. plagiarist ◴[12 Nov 23 20:44 UTC] No.38243923[source]▶
How disingenuous! The people trying to do something about socioeconomic factors are blocked from doing anything of significance by the same people apoplectic over aid to Ukraine.

More correctly: "sorry, we have to give billions of dollars in handouts to the wealthy instead."

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4. willcipriano ◴[12 Nov 23 21:23 UTC] No.38244200{3}[source]▶
Twenty plus years of losing foreign wars that were not only unnecessary but they didn't even have a clear objective (that both parties whole heartedly supported). Let me know when you get around to the socioeconomic factors, I've been waiting my entire life.
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5. soulofmischief ◴[12 Nov 23 23:57 UTC] No.38245424{4}[source]▶
Friend, America is a warring state. We explicitly, intentionally ignore domestic issues while writing legislation that benefits the wealthy class, and then use foreign crises to distract the population from doing something about it.
6. plagiarist ◴[13 Nov 23 01:54 UTC] No.38246019{4}[source]▶
What is your point? Ukraine is a line item in the US budget. We spent, what, 20 times that giving handouts to billionaires in 2020?

Let me know when we are allowed to spend money on socioeconomic factors. Literally the only thing holding us back from it are the disingenuous arguments people choose to believe. The same people lecturing about students paying back loans sure did turn a blind eye to PPP forgiveness. Why is that?

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7. willcipriano ◴[13 Nov 23 02:58 UTC] No.38246380{5}[source]▶
The people committing violent crimes don't have student loans. Paying them off would be a massive upward wealth transfer to the best off, highly educated professionals living in high cost of living areas.
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8. soulofmischief ◴[13 Nov 23 09:11 UTC] No.38248383{6}[source]▶
Homie, the middle class is rapidly eroding and soon it will only be the hyper-rich and the impoverished, if we cannot make drastic changes to our socioeconomic policy. "Best off" is hardly a descriptor for the average college graduate that I know; Most everyone is struggling.