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mkatx ◴[] No.36994570[source]
Steam gets all my gaming budget, as I really try to stick to Linux.

If it ain't on steam, I don't play it, and they don't get my money.

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andrewmcwatters ◴[] No.36994692[source]
It’s sad to me that you and many others have this opinion, which is fine, but Valve takes a significant tax from small companies while gamers, a cheap demographic, complain about the price of games.

Games don’t need to be on Steam to be good.

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acomjean ◴[] No.36995056[source]
The issue kinda is on Linux we’re playing windows games. There is significant work done by valve on that proton compatability layer, so a lot of people on Linux want to support that. Without that us Linux users have a lot harder time gaming.

There are some other launchers for epic games and gog (heroic game launcher I’ve used). It worked for me for a the couple games I tried (gloomhaven and disco elysium) but I’m using the proton wine I which I think was put out there by valve/steam.

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happymellon ◴[] No.36995490[source]
I would never support Epic as Sweeney is openly hostile towards Linux.
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1. throwaway2990 ◴[] No.36995561[source]
He’s openly hostile to gamers. If anyone thinks he does what he does for gamers and companies you would be a fool. He’s only trying to steal market share to line his own pockets. He can’t even compete with a quality product. Epic game store is probably the worst store to exist.
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2. samspenc ◴[] No.36995619[source]
I'm honestly curious about Epic and where they are heading these days. They no longer need to compete in this market since they had their breakout with Fortnite and most of their revenue comes from there anyway.

I understand their work on Unreal Engine (UE) since Fortnite is built on top of UE, but I don't understand the rest of their ecosystem and why Epic game store even exists.

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3. happymellon ◴[] No.36995703[source]
I try to ignore his flamebate comments, so am really only aware of his dismissal of Linux support and paying to remove Linux support from games that already support it.

In what way is he openly hostile to gamers in general?

4. throwaway2990 ◴[] No.36995732[source]
Neither do I. I thought they were doing good work on UE. I don’t understand the popularity of fortnite but people love it and play it and it earns them a ton of money.

But the store seems to exist because they don’t want to use steam or anything else cos they won’t want to lose the 30% cut on game sales or in-game micro transactions.

Yet they happily pay Sony and MS…

And if they created their store and opened it up to others and says oh yeah our fees are less. It would be fine. Gamers have choice. Developers have choice.

But buying games already on steam, or paying to get exclusives is bad. Especially when Tim lies so much.

They should compete by having a better product, service, experience. But they lie cheat and steal to grow.

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5. johnnyanmac ◴[] No.36995924[source]
> If anyone thinks he does what he does for gamers and companies you would be a fool.

Same with Gabe? Neither are running charities. They made tools that helped enable creators. But always keep in mind that it's money first, and creativity second.

>Epic game store is probably the worst store to exist.

Given all the PC platforms that have come and gone I always find this to be an odd take. EGS makes the grave sin of uhh...

- exclusivity windows which may or may not be permanent (which every store does)

- they don't make features fast enough for the power users

Like... am I missing something here? Or am I just much better versed in what Origin, the Ubi Store, Rockstar's store, and Window's own game store's negative aspects?

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6. johnnyanmac ◴[] No.36995970[source]
>I'm honestly curious about Epic and where they are heading these days.

based on their webstore and their butting with Apple/Google, they want to be the one stop shop for desktop and mobile. desktop was the obvious first step, but the aspect of a premium mobile game store is an interesting premise. And probably overly optimistic. I'm sure they will simply bend to the f2p GAAS model as much as Apple/Google did and simply want that platform cut.

There's also the matter of its own Unreal ecosystem it's building. It's letting kids use real (but watered down) UE tools to mod fortnite, which leads to future devs that make games in UE, which they can then publish to the EGS. Short of actual hardware, they seem to want full vertical integration of the game development process. And if Fornite money keeps flowing, I can see a 5+ year plan where they cover the hardware aspect as well.

7. zirgs ◴[] No.36996277{3}[source]
They happily pay SONY and Microsoft, because there's no alternative. Don't like it - build your own console then.
8. throwaway2990 ◴[] No.36996548[source]
Other than valves own games they don’t have exclusives. They don’t care if you’re on other stores. Only that if you’re on steam you don’t remove it later. Which was never really enforced until epic bought steam as exclusives to pump themselves.

So you could argue valve cares about gamers more.

This is also evident in the fact that exclusives are often more expensive than games on steam that are available elsewhere because of actual competition.

9. troupo ◴[] No.36996953[source]
> I'm honestly curious about Epic and where they are heading these days.

Media production. Many (most?) of their recent improvements ti Unreal have been geared towards film and tv production.