https://apnews.com/article/congress-data-breach-hack-identit...
As for facts even without the recent "alternate facts" the truth is you can easily come to radically different conclusions even based on the same facts.
Facts aren't facts basically :)
> Just because people are "good and decent" doesn't mean that the outcomes they support are thus.
That's exactly what many on the right think of leftist policies. That the bulk of sustainable and healthy solutions should come from the grassroots, and that many government interventions are unsustainable and have profound unintended negative consequences that aren't fully appreciated by the calculus of the left.
I'm sure that's true, but those people aren't being voted for. Those people aren't in power and as long as people are voting for literal Nazis there is no discussion to be had. Can't have a rational discussion with people who don't believe you should even exist.