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Animats ◴[] No.35844753[source]
There's an upside to this. It can be used politically as an argument against backdoors for "lawful access"[1] to encrypted data.

[1] https://www.fbi.gov/about/mission/lawful-access

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voidfunc ◴[] No.35844809[source]
The argument doesn't matter because the federal government and politicians don't give a shit about facts
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hilbert42 ◴[] No.35844873[source]
Until their PCs get hacked and their medical and psychiatrists' notes about them become front page news.
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TheRealPomax ◴[] No.35844896[source]
Sorry, what? This literally happened, THIS YEAR, and not a single one cared beyond saying "oh no, this is terrible, if only there was something we could have done!"

https://apnews.com/article/congress-data-breach-hack-identit...

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hilbert42 ◴[] No.35845219[source]
Right. There'll be more, eventually something truly salacious will turn up. When it does keep well away from fans.
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lenkite ◴[] No.35846440[source]
Any leaked, salacious stuff will just be termed as Russian disinformation.
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wsc981 ◴[] No.35847363[source]
It worked several times before (Clinton email server, Hunter Biden laptop, various examples from other countries) so no reason why this argument would not work again.
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Entinel ◴[] No.35847484[source]
It worked against Democrats because the Republican base does not care about facts and just need a reason, fact or fiction, to justify the outrage they are told to feel.
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ta8645 ◴[] No.35847754[source]
Ironic that you would confuse your emotionally felt bias, for a fact. There are many good and decent people, who are firmly rooted in reality and facts, that count themselves as part of the Republican base. We need to return to political argument, rather than vilification.
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1. blkhawk ◴[] No.35848740[source]
Just because people are "good and decent" doesn't mean that the outcomes they support are thus.

As for facts even without the recent "alternate facts" the truth is you can easily come to radically different conclusions even based on the same facts.

Facts aren't facts basically :)

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2. ta8645 ◴[] No.35849160[source]
That's all fodder for valid political debate. My objection is the denigration and condemnation of those with differing opinions. It's immature and toxic.

> Just because people are "good and decent" doesn't mean that the outcomes they support are thus.

That's exactly what many on the right think of leftist policies. That the bulk of sustainable and healthy solutions should come from the grassroots, and that many government interventions are unsustainable and have profound unintended negative consequences that aren't fully appreciated by the calculus of the left.

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3. Entinel ◴[] No.35850376[source]
> There are many good and decent people, who are firmly rooted in reality and facts, that count themselves as part of the Republican base.

I'm sure that's true, but those people aren't being voted for. Those people aren't in power and as long as people are voting for literal Nazis there is no discussion to be had. Can't have a rational discussion with people who don't believe you should even exist.