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The new and upgraded Framework Laptop

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1680 points etbusch | 1 comments | 19 May 22 12:19 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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sryie ◴[19 May 22 14:02 UTC] No.31434782[source]▶
I recently received my first framework laptop after being a loyal Thinkpad user for years. I am loving it so far. I run Ubuntu 22.04 daily and have not had any issues with battery life or the lid (but I do typically leave it plugged in during lunch and overnight). The expansion cards are brilliant and the keyboard is comparable to my old t-series. The aspect ratio is great for coding and I'm happy to see upgradeability is being taken seriously as promised. If I can get 5-10 years out of it like my old ThinkPads (all while upgrading piecewise along the way) I will be a fan for life.
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Goronmon ◴[19 May 22 14:10 UTC] No.31434877[source]▶
I recently received my first framework laptop after being a loyal Thinkpad user for years.

I get excited about different laptops occasionally...and then I remember that I won't have a trackpoint if I switch to a different brand, and I get disappointed. Literally happens every few months.

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ddoolin ◴[19 May 22 15:52 UTC] No.31436258[source]▶
I genuinely had no idea people still used those, or that they were still made with those.
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NikolaNovak ◴[19 May 22 16:30 UTC] No.31436770[source]▶
It's one of those things that once you invest into the learning curve, you're a cultish convert (I certainly am one:)
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mrtranscendence ◴[19 May 22 18:36 UTC] No.31438387[source]▶
I've tried them, but they felt so clumsy to me that I don't see how I could ever be a convert. Trackpads, at least on Macs, feel precise and intuitive; I even use one on the desktop (unless I'm gaming).

I suppose a trackpoint might be useful if you really want your hands never to leave your keyboard, but generally I'm either editing text with emacs keybindings (where I don't have to use the mouse), or else I'm in a mode where having one hand off the keyboard doesn't feel at all hindering.

Maybe I could be convinced, but since they're hard to find these days and getting harder there wouldn't be much point (except to frustrate myself on the off chance I ended up loving them).

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NikolaNovak ◴[19 May 22 19:28 UTC] No.31439001[source]▶
>>they felt so clumsy to me that I don't see how I could ever be a convert.

They do have a learning curve; but FWIW, I feel exact the opposite - I can achieve both lightning fast movement, AND pixel-perfect precision with the trackpoint (the latter I have never managed to consistently achieve on a trackpad).

(Note, for me, it's never a "Trackpoint vs Mouse". I'll use mouse 100% of the time when at my desk. When not at the desk though, it's "Trackpoint vs Trackpad", and for the amount of space it takes, the compromises it instills in keyboard layout and ergonomics, Trackpad never quite worked for me. On aside, I miss the potential of netbooks because a 10" screen with Trackpoint would be a formidable hyper-portable machine with today's ARM processors - but not if you need to reserve 5 inches for a trackpad :| )

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bitwize ◴[19 May 22 22:26 UTC] No.31440964{3}[source]▶
> (the latter I have never managed to consistently achieve on a trackpad).

Ever try an Apple trackpad?

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1. NikolaNovak ◴[20 May 22 10:32 UTC] No.31445514{4}[source]▶
I have a 4 year old Macbook. Does that count?

And I'm ready to admit I am not an expert on it; my point is exactly that I am an expert on track point and it's awesome :-)