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The new and upgraded Framework Laptop

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1680 points etbusch | 5 comments | 19 May 22 12:19 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
1. Kerrick ◴[19 May 22 13:22 UTC] No.31434287[source]▶
Will all software shipped with the hardware when ordered with GNU/Linux be Free or will there be non-Free software such as the BIOS/UEFI?

EDIT: I just realized that you cannot order this laptop with GNU/Linux pre installed. I was mistaken.

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2. nrp ◴[19 May 22 13:34 UTC] No.31434443[source]▶
We've seen distro preference be too broad to make pre-loading efficient. Instead, we ship DIY Edition with no OS and publish guides for how to install and optimize the most popular distros. Our embedded controller firmware is open (see https://github.com/FrameworkComputer/EmbeddedController), and we're working with some community members on attempting a coreboot port.
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3. Kerrick ◴[19 May 22 14:12 UTC] No.31434901[source]▶
Oh wow, that is actually really exciting!
4. aaaaaaaaata ◴[19 May 22 17:35 UTC] No.31437676[source]▶
> we're working with some community members on attempting a coreboot port.

Commendable. Very cool.

5. trelane ◴[19 May 22 23:04 UTC] No.31441325[source]▶
> distro preference be too broad to make pre-loading efficient

Others seem to manage by just having one or two pre-install options. Maybe you could do that too?

> Our embedded controller firmware is open

That's good, but do you also ensure that it _works_? There's way too much works-on-windows-and-halfway-on-Linux firmware out there. At least it _can_ be fixed, but being open doesn't mean that it necessarily _will_.

What support do you provide for Linux users?