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The new and upgraded Framework Laptop

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1680 points etbusch | 4 comments | 19 May 22 12:19 UTC | HN request time: 0.668s | source
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nrp ◴[19 May 22 12:23 UTC] No.31433602[source]▶
I'm happy to answer any questions around this! We've been working on this since update since we launched the product last year, so we're excited to be able to share it today.
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rocqua ◴[19 May 22 12:45 UTC] No.31433861[source]▶
I see there are only DDR4 options. Presumably if you bring your own memory, that also has to be DDR4.

Why no DDR5?

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nrp ◴[19 May 22 12:48 UTC] No.31433903[source]▶
When we started developing this product last year, we looked at price trends and performance data on DDR4 vs DDR5 and made the bet that DDR5 would have both price and availability issues in 2022. That has turned out to be the case, with DDR5 SO-DIMMs typically going for 50-70% over the equivalent DDR4 capacity, without delivering performance improvements to justify that premium. This is something that will improve in the future, and we'll continue to track this for future products.
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1. dhc02 ◴[19 May 22 13:04 UTC] No.31434088[source]▶
When I read this, I got really excited about a company having a well thought out, rational reason for a decision. And then I realized how sad that is.
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2. legalcorrection ◴[19 May 22 13:20 UTC] No.31434267[source]▶
What makes you think that people at Dell or HP don’t sit around and think about those tradeoffs?
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3. aenis ◴[19 May 22 13:36 UTC] No.31434467[source]▶
They sell to different audiences though, so maybe optimize for different outcomes. I'd imagine DDR5 is much easier to sell to a "pro-sumer" who games on Windows vs. to a programmer who runs linux and can make an educated decision re: price/perf tradeoff.
4. syzygyhack ◴[19 May 22 13:43 UTC] No.31434542[source]▶
Well, there are, but the things considered acceptable tradeoffs (like price/performance) are pretty different.