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Apple's apps bypass firewalls like LittleSnitch and LuLu on macOS Big Sur

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1183 points robenkleene | 5 comments | 20 Oct 20 15:51 UTC | HN request time: 0.97s | source
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jjoonathan ◴[20 Oct 20 16:03 UTC] No.24838965[source]▶
"You don't need kernel extensions, we'll provide APIs for you! We won't abuse the power that gives us, promise!"

...and now Apple has altered the deal and we must pray they do not alter it further. Disgusting. Predictable, expected, unsurprising -- but still disgusting.

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gabereiser ◴[20 Oct 20 16:47 UTC] No.24839566[source]▶
Tim Cook's Apple Inc is really a nightmare. Sure we have sleek shiny laptops and devices that are amazingly powerful but at what cost? I still haven't found a trackpad as good as MagicTrackpad sadly otherwise I'd ditch the MacBook Pro.

To be fair to Apple though, it's their OS, they can do what they want and we agree every time we update MacOS or iOS. It's crazy to me that we basically only have 3 phone device choices, 2.15 environment choices (OS wise... Linux Desktop is crap, but getting better), and only 2 choices in GPU's, CPU's, etc...

What can we do about this?

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1. x87678r ◴[20 Oct 20 17:29 UTC] No.24840099[source]▶
New XPS 15 has great trackpad and is a good alternative. Its not any cheaper than MBP though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCM8FZlFTas
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2. kibwen ◴[20 Oct 20 17:35 UTC] No.24840167[source]▶
Can confirm that my 2016-era XPS 15 model has the best trackpad I've used on a PC. I did have an issue where after a few years it became almost impossible to physically click (still important for click-and-drag operations), though after investigation it turned out that the dying battery was swelling up from below and interfering with the trackpad. So, full marks on the trackpad, but I hope they've ironed out their battery story.
3. horsawlarway ◴[20 Oct 20 17:35 UTC] No.24840169[source]▶
Second this - XPS machines on Wayland are basically spot on for trackpads.

Honestly - just Wayland in general has dramatically improved my linux desktop experience. 10/10, will never go back to X.

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4. darthrupert ◴[20 Oct 20 18:15 UTC] No.24840619[source]▶
Did Wayland start being good recently? Its glacial progress is one of the reasons I switched to macs a few years ago.
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5. horsawlarway ◴[21 Oct 20 18:13 UTC] No.24850504{3}[source]▶
Yes, at least in my experience over the last two years with Arch running Gnome as the DE.

Wayland's trackpad support is excellent, I can switch from my mac for work to my personal machine without noticing.

Multi monitor support is MILES (I literally cannot emphasize how much better it is) better. Different scaling ratios for different monitors, much better automatic detection and configuration.

There are two remaining problems in my opinion

- Screen sharing is still rather hit or miss. Pipewire is functional for me on latest versions of chromium, but does not work for some electron apps that package older versions (Slack, in this case).

- X-Wayland applications still make you feel the hurt from Xorg. Most times I don't care, but the default builds of chromium and chrome both rely on X-Wayland. There are AUR builds of chromium that have moved to Ozone and have native Wayland support, though (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/chromium-ozone/)

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Long story short, Wayland is why my personal machine no longer has windows on it. It's genuinely much better, and I don't spend any time at all dicking around with xorg config files (literally not once have I touched a config file related to monitors or user input devices on my current linux box in the last year. It feels very nice.)