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Apple's apps bypass firewalls like LittleSnitch and LuLu on macOS Big Sur

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1183 points robenkleene | 5 comments | 20 Oct 20 15:51 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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jjoonathan ◴[20 Oct 20 16:03 UTC] No.24838965[source]▶
"You don't need kernel extensions, we'll provide APIs for you! We won't abuse the power that gives us, promise!"

...and now Apple has altered the deal and we must pray they do not alter it further. Disgusting. Predictable, expected, unsurprising -- but still disgusting.

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nix23 ◴[20 Oct 20 16:19 UTC] No.24839174[source]▶
Dont pray, just dont buy Apple Products
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Skunkleton ◴[20 Oct 20 16:21 UTC] No.24839211[source]▶
It's a frustrating road we are headed down. Tech companies have gotten so big that they don't really have to work together using standardization anymore. Options are limited, and most are anti-consumer in one way or another.
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1. nix23 ◴[20 Oct 20 16:45 UTC] No.24839540[source]▶
>Options are limited

No not really, but limited is the mindset of peoples.

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2. gabereiser ◴[20 Oct 20 16:51 UTC] No.24839616[source]▶
>No not really, but limited is the mindset of peoples.

I'd argue options really are limited. Your counter argument assumes one can just roll their own OS with the same features and functionality as current-gen OS's. That's quite a leap. Options today are Windows, Mac, or some flavor of Linux if you can get it to work. Linux aside, Windows and Mac both are making it so you no longer own the OS but are "subscribed" to it. Making it easy for them to implement anti-consumer strategies to lock you in.

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3. fsflover ◴[20 Oct 20 17:35 UTC] No.24840166[source]▶
> or some flavor of Linux if you can get it to work

Do not try to get anything work. Just buy preinstalled.

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4. a1369209993 ◴[20 Oct 20 19:49 UTC] No.24841663{3}[source]▶
Buy preinstalled from where, exactly?

(And no, chromebooks are not linux for any practical purpose, although they probably would be easier to install a real linux system on.)

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5. fsflover ◴[20 Oct 20 19:54 UTC] No.24841711{4}[source]▶
https://system76.com

https://puri.sm

https://www.debian.org/distrib/pre-installed

and many more.