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Apple's apps bypass firewalls like LittleSnitch and LuLu on macOS Big Sur

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1183 points robenkleene | 8 comments | 20 Oct 20 15:51 UTC | HN request time: 0.297s | source | bottom
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jjoonathan ◴[20 Oct 20 16:03 UTC] No.24838965[source]▶
"You don't need kernel extensions, we'll provide APIs for you! We won't abuse the power that gives us, promise!"

...and now Apple has altered the deal and we must pray they do not alter it further. Disgusting. Predictable, expected, unsurprising -- but still disgusting.

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nix23 ◴[20 Oct 20 16:19 UTC] No.24839174[source]▶
Dont pray, just dont buy Apple Products
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1. gogopuppygogo ◴[20 Oct 20 16:26 UTC] No.24839285[source]▶
The alternative is what? System76 makes a decent laptop but they don’t have a repair center in every major city. I buy Apple computers because of the hardware support and integration with iPhone.

Speaking of iPhone, the open options are at best abysmal for privacy (at least orders of magnitudes worse than Apple) and at worst part of planned obsolescence that creates e-waste much faster than Apple devices.

Fun fact, at least for now, you can still buy a Mac and boot Linux. Probably not true once Apple silicon hits but that’s a sad day for anyone who liked boot camp.

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2. solatic ◴[20 Oct 20 16:29 UTC] No.24839331[source]▶
You respond as if the majority of buyers do not already have alternatives for Apple laptops and Apple phones.
3. fortran77 ◴[20 Oct 20 16:30 UTC] No.24839347[source]▶
The alternative is Windows 10 on a wide variety of hardware, or Linux.
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4. throwaway2048 ◴[20 Oct 20 16:39 UTC] No.24839461[source]▶
Windows 10 has even more invasive spyware nonsense.
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5. nix23 ◴[20 Oct 20 16:41 UTC] No.24839496[source]▶
>Fun fact, at least for now, you can still buy a Mac and boot Linux.

Are you praing too that Apple will still allow that in the future?

>I buy Apple computers because of the hardware support and integration with iPhone

Have fun then, i dont buy Think different but same.

6. nix23 ◴[20 Oct 20 16:44 UTC] No.24839526{3}[source]▶
Not the Enterprise/Education edition.
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7. throwaway2048 ◴[20 Oct 20 16:49 UTC] No.24839589{4}[source]▶
That you can't legally acquire outside of a commercial support contract.
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8. wayneftw ◴[20 Oct 20 17:12 UTC] No.24839891{5}[source]▶
you can buy it right here for 299

https://www.trustedtechteam.com/products/windows-10-enterpri...