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Huawei 5G kit must be removed from UK by 2027

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macspoofing ◴[14 Jul 20 12:25 UTC] No.23831020[source]▶
The China-US tensions are not going to get better, and, in fact, will get worse as years go by. More and more nations will be forced to choose sides. It's not good and I'm not sure what a resolution even looks like.
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strogonoff ◴[14 Jul 20 12:33 UTC] No.23831083[source]▶
Perhaps having to take a side in this is not necessarily a negative? Better sooner rather than later.
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hrktb ◴[14 Jul 20 12:44 UTC] No.23831181[source]▶
From a EU/UK perspective there’s no good coming from it.

It’s like being caught in a fight between your drunk uncle and your berserk cousin.

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mytailorisrich ◴[14 Jul 20 12:47 UTC] No.23831211[source]▶
There is definitely good coming out of it for the EU.

Europe does not have to align with either side. It is a superpower in its own right if it gets its shit together (one can dream).

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hrktb ◴[14 Jul 20 13:02 UTC] No.23831385[source]▶
This is not some neutral decision, but a move forced by the fallout of US sanctions, that the UK can’t do anything about.

They’re giving up a partnership they entered after independently reviewing the equipment, I can’t see how it is a good outcome for them.

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mytailorisrich[dead post] ◴[14 Jul 20 13:13 UTC] No.23831498[source]▶
The UK left the EU so now it has no option but to be a big guy's bitch because it is too weak to face them by itself, and it has always been quite obvious that it would be a satellite of the US.

This is not the same situation for the EU.

1. hrktb ◴[14 Jul 20 13:30 UTC] No.23831683[source]▶
The EU by design is not a single unit with governing power that would counteract the US or China. It’s not a federation but a union, each member has to manage their own international relations.

France for instance is about to take the same steps as UK, and get out of Huawei deals within the next years.

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2. mytailorisrich ◴[14 Jul 20 15:44 UTC] No.23833276[source]▶
One of the main goals of the EU is to counteract the US and China. Individual member states no longer manage their own international relations when it comes to trade and try to find a common position on other issues.

The issue of a deeper integration is an old one and evolving, but the trend is more integration.

It is becoming more and more important for Europe to stand on its own two feet and be independent in all aspects.

There are benefits in having the other superpowers locked in conflict if you can stay out of it as much as possible and further your interests while they are distracted.

The UK, on the other hand, is in a very weak position. China will feel comfortable retaliating strongly, and the US will probably extract a sweet trade deal from them.