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macspoofing ◴[] No.23831020[source]
The China-US tensions are not going to get better, and, in fact, will get worse as years go by. More and more nations will be forced to choose sides. It's not good and I'm not sure what a resolution even looks like.
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strogonoff ◴[] No.23831083[source]
Perhaps having to take a side in this is not necessarily a negative? Better sooner rather than later.
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hrktb ◴[] No.23831181[source]
From a EU/UK perspective there’s no good coming from it.

It’s like being caught in a fight between your drunk uncle and your berserk cousin.

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mytailorisrich ◴[] No.23831211[source]
There is definitely good coming out of it for the EU.

Europe does not have to align with either side. It is a superpower in its own right if it gets its shit together (one can dream).

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hrktb ◴[] No.23831385[source]
This is not some neutral decision, but a move forced by the fallout of US sanctions, that the UK can’t do anything about.

They’re giving up a partnership they entered after independently reviewing the equipment, I can’t see how it is a good outcome for them.

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1. hrktb ◴[] No.23831683[source]
The EU by design is not a single unit with governing power that would counteract the US or China. It’s not a federation but a union, each member has to manage their own international relations.

France for instance is about to take the same steps as UK, and get out of Huawei deals within the next years.

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2. mytailorisrich ◴[] No.23833276[source]
One of the main goals of the EU is to counteract the US and China. Individual member states no longer manage their own international relations when it comes to trade and try to find a common position on other issues.

The issue of a deeper integration is an old one and evolving, but the trend is more integration.

It is becoming more and more important for Europe to stand on its own two feet and be independent in all aspects.

There are benefits in having the other superpowers locked in conflict if you can stay out of it as much as possible and further your interests while they are distracted.

The UK, on the other hand, is in a very weak position. China will feel comfortable retaliating strongly, and the US will probably extract a sweet trade deal from them.