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jjuel ◴[] No.23322521[source]
It is crazy to see how well he knows his base and how to get them to rally close to an election. Making them think everything is a liberal bias against them, and if they don't vote for his big government agenda they will receive a big government agenda. This is just one more way for him to get his base to believe everything he says versus people who actually prove what he says is a lie. He wants state run media and social media just like China. As much as he talks about hating China he would love to be China.
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sp332 ◴[] No.23322583[source]
And this is specifically on a tweet calling the validity of the election into question. It's blatantly wrong, but he needs his base to believe him when he says the election is rigged.
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1. frockington1 ◴[] No.23322887[source]
Hasn't the other side been #NotMyPresient and throwing a tantrum about the validity of the last election? Trump is not a trailblazer in this regard
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2. shadowgovt ◴[] No.23323058[source]
(a) imagining there's one "other side" is a fallacy. There are multiple interest groups. Some more aligned with the President and his administration, some less.

(b) you'll have to be more specific about what you mean, but the "tantrum" I've heard is that the system as set up over-represents land over people, not that the result is illegitimate. A legitimate result in a badly-crafted system is materially different from claiming the process as designed is compromised.

3. majewsky ◴[] No.23323063[source]
I'm observing from the outside (read: the other side of the Atlantic), but my understanding is that people who say #NotMyPresident do it because of either a) a perceived lack of shared values between them and the president or b) in reference to him losing the popular vote, like several other presidents before him.
4. raziel2p ◴[] No.23323079[source]
"The other side" has been pointing out how broken the electoral college is, not claiming that Trump is president on illegal grounds.
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5. alistairSH ◴[] No.23323335[source]
There's a massive difference between...

1. Questioning whether the Electoral College (and its tendency to devalue votes in some states) has a place in the modern US.

2. Questioning whether the election itself is completely rigged (via fraudulent votes).

#1 is the question many liberals have been asking. #2 is thee claim that the entire GOP has been making for years, despite their own investigations never turning up more than a few individuals voting fraudulently (but never systematic fraud perpetrated by the political left, as they claim).

6. refurb ◴[] No.23329443[source]
Headline: Hillary Clinton: Trump is an ‘illegitimate president’

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/hillary-clinton-trum...

7. mydongle ◴[] No.23329461[source]
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23329443