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makewavesnotwar ◴[] No.16407409[source]
Likening people to Thiel is ridiculous. He is personally facing the backlash from openly supporting Trump and being a speaker at his rallies. Nobody else in the valley did anything as absurd or unnecessary. And if he thinks he'll fair better in LA, I think he's sorely mistaken once people start recognizing him en masse. But to my point, this article seems to be generalizing an outlier to make its point. Everyone is being alienated everywhere because the country has a leader who is actively polarizing the populous by demonizing every side that he's not on as an enemy to his agenda, even going so far now as to suggest people who disagree should be labeled as traitors - which coming from the President, is technically a death threat as that is the punishment for treason. Peter Thiel seems to be actively trying to paint a more dystopian portrait of the situation to make himself out to be a victim when in reality people on both sides have been alienated by the dissolution of the "moderate" common ground where we all worked together in favor of a Monday Night Football-esque team based society (or crime drama - good v. bad). More generalizations like this that skew reality aren't going to help anything.
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superquest ◴[] No.16407487[source]
"openly supporting" the winning presidential candidate isn't "absurd".
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askafriend ◴[] No.16407892[source]
Yes it is. When you support Trump, you support his vile brand of leadership. The majority in this the country do not support this man or his ideas. They simply don't. The base that supported him and made this presidency possible is collapsing by all reported metrics (as in they are literally dying off, and younger people neither support Trump's ideas nor are they as religious). So while Trump's base may have squeezed out a win last time, their chances of a repeat decrease significantly as time goes on.

Time is not on their side, and I suspect History is not on their side either.

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lr4444lr ◴[] No.16410125[source]
When people supported Malcolm X, did they support his anti-semitism as well?

Older people almost always have disproportionately higher turnout in elections.

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1. askafriend ◴[] No.16410657{3}[source]
There is leadership and then there are ideas.

It is entirely possible to support someone's form of leadership without entirely supporting all of the person's ideas.

That's why I specifically said Trump's vile brand of leadership. It's OK to agree or disagree with his ideas, but leadership is far more than having good or bad ideas. Leadership is ultimately about people and having a selfless, coherent vision for the people you represent.

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2. hackerman12345 ◴[] No.16413295[source]
The other contender says nice words while killing people and starting wars in the background, is that really the superior moral choice?