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Paris Shootings and Explosions Kill Over 100, Police Say

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623 points franzb | 2 comments | 14 Nov 15 00:25 UTC | HN request time: 0.001s | source
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jmspring ◴[14 Nov 15 00:45 UTC] No.10563642[source]▶
The repeated attacks, heavy immigration of refugees...I'm hoping for the best, but I feel like there is a powder keg here. Whether or not it is based in any fact, how this is handled and plays out is a serious concern.
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untog ◴[14 Nov 15 00:51 UTC] No.10563676[source]▶
What do people think the refugees were running away from? Exactly these people.
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Cthulhu_ ◴[14 Nov 15 00:58 UTC] No.10563711[source]▶
I think a major problem is that even they can't know who among them - in the big groups of refugees making the journey - is an isis member or supporter, and even if they're not, there's no telling who is going to radicalise in the future. The attacks earlier this year in paris weren't done by someone that came from that area, iirc.
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cm2187 ◴[14 Nov 15 01:56 UTC] No.10563998[source]▶
The French TV mentions that the terrorists were speaking French. And based on previous attacks it is more likely to be home grown terrorists. Syria is probably just a pretext, like a lot of European leftists in the 70s were using the Palestinian situation to justify their terrorist attacks.
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1. tormeh ◴[14 Nov 15 02:22 UTC] No.10564104{3}[source]▶
Hm... Interesting parallels:

In the 70s, European communist terrorism was widespread because of support from the Soviet Union. Now, European islamist terrorism is widespread because of support from the middle east. I'm aware that the CIA et al. have been doing exactly the same thing, but it's just a sad pattern.

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2. kpil ◴[14 Nov 15 12:24 UTC] No.10565428[source]▶
Unfortunately, if one correlates the money, the particular religious flavour, and some incentives in loss of influence in certain neighbour countries, it would point to certain gulf states that we seem to be reliant on for oil. Regard as allies even.