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Paris Shootings and Explosions Kill Over 100, Police Say

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623 points franzb | 11 comments | 14 Nov 15 00:25 UTC | HN request time: 0.001s | source | bottom
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jmspring ◴[14 Nov 15 00:45 UTC] No.10563642[source]▶
The repeated attacks, heavy immigration of refugees...I'm hoping for the best, but I feel like there is a powder keg here. Whether or not it is based in any fact, how this is handled and plays out is a serious concern.
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gotchange ◴[14 Nov 15 00:57 UTC] No.10563703[source]▶
I believe that France didn't open its borders to this wave of refugees/migrants but I could be mistaken since I don't follow the news this closely.
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jules ◴[14 Nov 15 01:05 UTC] No.10563760[source]▶
What do you mean by that? The border between France and neighboring nations is always open.
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1. gotchange ◴[14 Nov 15 01:26 UTC] No.10563863{3}[source]▶
It's open but that doesn't mean that everyone who shows up at the gate will be allowed in, right?
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2. ino ◴[14 Nov 15 01:34 UTC] No.10563899[source]▶
there are no gates
3. darkr ◴[14 Nov 15 01:35 UTC] No.10563906[source]▶
Under normal circumstances there is no gate to speak of.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schengen_Area

4. jules ◴[14 Nov 15 01:36 UTC] No.10563909[source]▶
What gates? You can walk or drive from France into Spain or Belgium or Germany and not even notice.
5. saryant ◴[14 Nov 15 01:36 UTC] No.10563912[source]▶
Have you crossed a French land border lately? There are no controls. There are no gates between France and other Schengen countries.
6. bensandcastle ◴[14 Nov 15 01:40 UTC] No.10563933[source]▶
There are no gates. There is a sign. http://travel.jeffersoncampervan.com/Pictures/PixoriginalSit...

Cross border travel within the EU is like moving between states in the US, easy to miss.

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7. gotchange ◴[14 Nov 15 01:51 UTC] No.10563969[source]▶
What about airports?

I'm very positive that they check people's passports and papers in airports.

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8. the_french ◴[14 Nov 15 02:04 UTC] No.10564025{3}[source]▶
The vast majority of European travellers use trains or roads, not air travel.
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9. kalleboo ◴[14 Nov 15 04:09 UTC] No.10564409{3}[source]▶
Only if you're arriving from outside of Schengen. Within Schengen, there are only ID checks if the airline themselves have them there to avoid ticket resales.
10. acjohnson55 ◴[14 Nov 15 05:18 UTC] No.10564578{3}[source]▶
Sometimes. About 5 years ago, I walked off a plane from Baltimore to Rome and out of the airport like it was a domestic flight. No stamp or anything.
11. saryant ◴[14 Nov 15 06:16 UTC] No.10564716{4}[source]▶
Actually, air travel is the most common mode of transport in intra-EU travel.

http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php/...

Trains are a tiny 6%.