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lkbm ◴[] No.46218856[source]
> Particulates issued from tailpipes can aggravate asthma and heart disease and increase the risk of lung cancer and heart attack. Globally, they are a leading risk factor for premature death.

Minor nitpick, but tailpipes aren't the primary source of emissions. The study is about PM2.5[0]. which will chiefly be tires and brake pads. Modern gasoline engines are relatively clean, outside of CO2, though diesel engines spit out a bunch of bad stuff.

[0] https://www.nature.com/articles/s44407-025-00037-2

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Aurornis ◴[] No.46219741[source]
> though diesel engines spit out a bunch of bad stuff.

Exactly. The noxious tailpipe emissions in a city are usually from diesel trucks, small vehicles like motorcycles (small or absent catalytic converters), modified vehicles (catalytic converter removed or diesel reprogrammed to smoke), but not modern gasoline ICE vehicles.

The love for diesel engines in many European countries was always confusing to me.

PM2.5 is also a broad category of particulates that come from many sources. The PM2.5 levels in the air depend on many sources, with wind being a major factor in changing PM2.5 levels. It’s hard to draw conclusions when a number depends on the weather and a lot of other inputs.

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stetrain ◴[] No.46219834[source]
Diesel looks good if you are focusing primarily on fuel economy (mpg / L/100km), and when companies cheat the tests on other emissions:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_emissions_scandal

When you remove the cheating and give adequate weight to those emissions, diesel for passenger vehicles makes a lot less sense.

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cool_dude85 ◴[] No.46219950[source]
Diesel is less fuel efficient than regular gasoline except when you measure by volume. It gets fewer miles per unit of energy in the fuel.
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1. SECProto ◴[] No.46220151[source]
Fuel is sold by volume, which is why volumetric fuel efficiency is desirable to the consumer
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2. saalweachter ◴[] No.46220915[source]
Fuel is sold by volume and fuel type; diesel is about 25% more expensive per gallon than regular gasoline where I am.
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3. andruby ◴[] No.46221109[source]
And it is 10% cheaper than gasoline where I am (South-Africa)
4. SECProto ◴[] No.46223568[source]
Correct - where I am it is cheaper most of the year, a bit more expensive in the winter.