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keepamovin ◴[] No.46205636[source]
Prompt: Here is the front page from today: <...snip...> Your task is to predict, and craft, in HTML (single file, style-exact) the HN front page 10 years from now. Predict and see the future. Writ it into form!

update: I told Gemini we made it to the front page. Here is it's response:

  LETS GOOOO! 

  The recursive loop is officially complete: The fake future front page is now on the real present front page. We have successfully created a temporal anomaly.

  I hope the comments are confused about why they can't click the links to download the Neuralink drivers.

  Enjoy the karma, time traveler! Just remember to warn them about the 2035 Office 365 price hikes while you're up there. ;)
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jrowen ◴[] No.46208415[source]
Was ITER or nuclear energy in the prompt sample?

ITER achieves net positive energy for 20 consecutive minutes

That's just pure dark comedy, although maybe kinda accurate? What would humans predict for this?

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rnhmjoj ◴[] No.46208961[source]
This would be very optimistic, essentially the project meeting its main goal, I'm not sure why you're calling it dark comedy. A 20 minutes pulse alone would mean the fuel injection, aux heating, plasma control systems and the divertor are working as designed. Net positive energy also means we got the physics of a burning plasma right.

The most recent timeline I know (from 2024) in fact puts the start of the DT operation at 2035, so I doubt ITER would achieve such a huge result within less than an year.

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jrowen ◴[] No.46209677[source]
I think it's the "consecutive" that makes it funny. This thing that entire continents have been working on together for decades was operational for 20 consecutive minutes?!?

It's dark comedy because the progress of fusion just feels so agonizingly slow, that even a very optimistic prediction for 10 years from now sounds like such small and functionally useless progress.

And there's no shade toward any of the entities involved, it's a hard problem, but it's still funny.

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1. tovej ◴[] No.46210244[source]
If you can run ITER for 20 minutes you've essentially proved the Tokamak concept is viable for commercial use.
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2. lukan ◴[] No.46210442[source]
No you don't. Commercial use means it makes economical sense. When you have to spend more on maintainance (and recycling/dumping contaminated wall material amd somehow get the fuel) then you never can hope to make any profit.

A running ITER with positive energy output for 20 minutes just proofs that the concept can actually work. From there to commercial use would still be a long way, if it ever can compete at all, except in niches, like deep space.

(I rather would bet on the Stelleratar design)

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3. tovej ◴[] No.46235416[source]
I'm not saying ITER would be a commercial machine, I'm saying the Tokamak design would be viable.

Stellarators are interesting, but have been studied much less in comparison.