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8f2ab37a-ed6c ◴[] No.46184133[source]
With little growth and hiring happening outside of firms betting the farm on AI—and getting the funding to stay alive and play the lottery—what is a random tech employee supposed to do here?

It seems like right now the most rational move to stay in the industry is to milk the AI wave as much as possible, learn all of the tools, get a big brand name on one's resume, and then land somewhere still-alive once the AI music stops? But ultimately if nothing outside of AI is growing, it's one big game of musical chairs and even that might not save you?

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karlgkk ◴[] No.46184165[source]
That “rational move” has always been a good move, regardless of AI. This is a boom/bust industry, and the next boom will come in a few years. While we’re at it, if you’re making engineer money, you should be targeting retirement at 50. I’m not saying you have to do that, but it sure helps to have that option.
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delfinom ◴[] No.46184783[source]
> if you’re making engineer money,

SV & big tech engineer money.

Majority of engineering fields do not make that kind of money to retire at 50. Comfortable compared to the rest of the country, sure.

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karlgkk ◴[] No.46184901[source]
I think maybe that was implied, considering the topic of conversation and website we’re on.

That said if you’re making $250k+ a year and not on track to retire by 50, seriously please open a retirement calculator and figure out what you need to do to get there.

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noncoml ◴[] No.46185303[source]
$250k+ a year means ~$12k monthly salary.

A semi decent apartment in SV will cost you ~$3k

Bills(phone, internet, electricity, etc) another $1k.

If you are married, groceries at least $1k.

Even if we assume you don’t do anything else in life, and you are in perfect health best case scenario would be $6k savings a month or $72k a year.

It would take you 10 years to save $720k plus whatever you make from investments.

That’s not enough to even buy you a house in SV. How are you going to retire?

Unless you assume you will get $250k straight out of college and keep up salary raises for 25 years.

Sure, if you don’t have kids, age with no health problems, never enjoy anything in life, you may be able to retire at 50 in Thailand or Philippines.

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PunchyHamster ◴[] No.46185414[source]
why would you would be saving for house and renting at same time ?
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rkomorn ◴[] No.46185426[source]
Because you need to have enough saved for a downpayment?
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PunchyHamster ◴[] No.46191475[source]
not for 10 years you don't
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rkomorn ◴[] No.46191485[source]
You don't need to save for a downpayment for 10 years? Or are you saying it won't take 10 years to save up for a downpayment?
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PunchyHamster ◴[] No.46192872[source]
now if you only read the comment I answered to you might've figured the answer to that on your own!
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1. rkomorn ◴[] No.46195453[source]
Touché.

I don't see how we get to "why would you rent and save for a house at the same time?" from "it takes 10 years to save $720K" but whatever.