←back to thread

GrapheneOS is the only Android OS providing full security patches

(grapheneos.social)
751 points akyuu | 2 comments | 06 Dec 25 13:58 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
Show context
singpolyma3 ◴[07 Dec 25 00:51 UTC] No.46178206[source]▶
The GrapheneOS obsession with picking a fight with everyone else is the most unfortunate part of the project.
replies(5): >>46178734 #>>46179039 #>>46180260 #>>46183999 #>>46185748 #
Itoldmyselfso ◴[07 Dec 25 08:59 UTC] No.46180260[source]▶
It doesn't seem to be the entire project, just one dev (afaik) that's quite outspoken and does make accusations that they don't always seem to back with evidence. Also insofar as the actual "product" remains completely untouched by any spats it shouldn't be a dealbreaker for anyone wanting to use GOS, but of course it isn't ideal to have any drama attached.
replies(2): >>46181340 #>>46185361 #
worldsavior ◴[07 Dec 25 12:53 UTC] No.46181340[source]▶
He never shows any evidence. Always accusing without any images/links. I love the project but it looks not normal.
replies(2): >>46185362 #>>46185365 #
strcat ◴[07 Dec 25 21:31 UTC] No.46185365[source]▶
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46185361
replies(1): >>46185525 #
1. worldsavior ◴[07 Dec 25 21:50 UTC] No.46185525[source]▶
Alright, didn't mean to make any libelous claims, it's just so it happens I never saw any evidence from your accusations. I already know these people are the worst, but it would be helpful if in any of your posts you would share some evidence like you did right now.
replies(1): >>46185908 #
2. strcat ◴[07 Dec 25 22:26 UTC] No.46185908[source]▶
Where's the evidence for the accusations being made towards me? No need to answer: fabrications and spin on Kiwi Farms and 2 Kiwi Farms adjacent videos on YouTube, which are regularly referenced and directly linked to by people involved with multiple companies and open source projects in the space. Here's a very recent example of the founder of /e/ and Murena once again linking to libelous harassment/bullying content, this time on a blatant neo-nazi conspiracy site:

https://archive.is/SWXPJ

https://archive.is/n4yTO

He's done this many times before and has directly spread Kiwi Farms harassment content himself from his personal accounts along with using the /e/ and Murena accounts for similar attacks. We never picked any fight with /e/ or Murena, they spent years spreading misinformation about GrapheneOS to mislead people into buying highly insecure products and services. They're enraged by us countering that misinformation as we did here with verifiable, accurate information with third party sources you should read too from Divested Computing, Mike Kuketz, their own forum (sending sensitive data to OpenAI without consent and falsely claiming it's anonymized when questioned) and elsewhere:

https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/24134-devices-lacking-stand...

What is it you think hasn't been adequately proven?

Our chat rooms, forum, etc. are being endlessly raided with CSAM, gore and harassment towards our team. Our team is being swatted and threatened on a regular basis. We're having endless libel and bullying directed towards us including these baseless claims that we're insane. What the people attacking us can point to is that they think our replies debunking it and defending ourselves are too verbose which somehow makes us insane and delusional. Us banning people from the Techlore and /e/ communities raiding our rooms pretending to be users initially then attacking our team with harassment or posting CSAM is somehow us being toxic rather than those communities being toxic. It's not them being targeted with harassment. It's not them having fabricated stories spread about them.

It's you folks making accusations without evidence which simply reference a bunch of harassment content proving what we're saying is true. Linking to that harassment content proves people are doing it since most people can see it for what it is: a bunch of poorly made lies and misrepresentations to target someone with harassment.