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Germany votes to bring in voluntary military service programme for 18-year-olds

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126 points petermcneeley | 4 comments | 06 Dec 25 19:19 UTC | HN request time: 0.801s | source
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appreciatorBus ◴[06 Dec 25 23:48 UTC] No.46177701[source]▶
> "We don't want to spend half a year of our lives locked up in barracks, being trained in drill and obedience and learning to kill," the organisers of the protests wrote in a statement posted on social media. "War offers no prospects for the future and destroys our livelihoods."

Is the idea that it’s better for your livelihood to just start learning how speak Russian now?

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1. wkat4242 ◴[07 Dec 25 00:26 UTC] No.46178027[source]▶
In my opinion pitting our youth against theirs man to man means we have already lost anyway. Lots of people that don't deserve it would have to die. We need to be able to destroy them at the push of a button so they don't even think about invading us. And then we don't need to order kids around to their deaths.

In other words we need a nuclear umbrella. Now that America is no longer our friend we need to build our own. It has worked very well to keep us safe since the 50s. And I don't think the French + English ones are sufficient deterrence anymore.

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2. klipklop ◴[07 Dec 25 05:35 UTC] No.46179394[source]▶
This is not how reality works at all. Nuclear war is a last resort, not a first response to a ground invasion. Ground troops are essential for defense, even in the era of nukes and drones.
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3. fifilura ◴[07 Dec 25 06:17 UTC] No.46179568[source]▶
No it is not a last resort. It is a political weapon that helps you avoid war.
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4. IAmBroom ◴[09 Dec 25 20:26 UTC] No.46210151{3}[source]▶
It is both. The policy of AMD has never yet failed.

But likewise, AMD only works because there IS a last resort that is unthinkably bad for both sides.