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shswkna ◴[] No.45999858[source]
From the article:

> They can also increase suicidal ideation.

A very close family member committed suicide, after Prozac dosage adjustments made his brain chemistry go haywire.

This happened 30 years ago, and it has been known to us that Prozac can cause this, since then.

The Guardians headline is way, way understating the real situation here.

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carsoon ◴[] No.45999887[source]
The problem with suicidal depression is that if someone has created the thought pattern that death is best, then removing the symptoms of depression (lethargy, lack of energy, no willpower) now gives the person the ability to actually follow through with the act.

Medications almost always target symptoms and never address root causes.

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fragrom ◴[] No.46000022[source]
This is what my psychiatrist more or less warned me about when I went on medication; that a lot of people who are suicidal lack the energy and ability to plan their suicide, and medications can sometimes undo those particular symptoms and people manage to end themselves.

I'm not sure what kinds of studies have been done about it, but I've had a few therapists same similar ideas. If it's not a studied phenomenon, then it has folks that believe it exists.

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DANmode ◴[] No.46001309[source]
Almost like depression is an acute toxicity caused by physiological variance (or infection related) detox inefficiency!
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DANmode ◴[] No.46001321[source]
This gets even more interesting when you realize many SSRIs are antibacterials.
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JumpCrisscross ◴[] No.46008403[source]
It gets less interesting when one notices that social animals are much more prone to depression.

Inflammation and depression are linked. Infection causes inflammation. It doesn’t follow that depression is caused by infection.

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DANmode ◴[] No.46008581[source]
Correct.

It’s caused by inflammation,

one of the causes being: detox inefficiency.

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purple_turtle ◴[] No.46008898[source]
Can you link any evidence supporting this claim? This term sounds like a standard-issue woo.
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1. DANmode ◴[] No.46009342[source]
Replied to your other request too: see other comments, ask for what’s missing for you.