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What if you don't need MCP at all?

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237 points jdkee | 2 comments | 16 Nov 25 18:58 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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jrm4 ◴[16 Nov 25 21:34 UTC] No.45948621[source]▶
Yeah, "MCP" felt like BS from jump. Basically it's the problem that will always be a problem, namely "AI stuff is non-deterministic."

If there was some certainty MCP could add to this equation that would perhaps be theoretically nice, but otherwise it's just .. parsing, a perhaps not "solved" problem, but one for which there's already ample solutions.

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chpatrick ◴[16 Nov 25 22:09 UTC] No.45948883[source]▶
Why are they nondeterministic? You can use a fixed seed or temperature=0.
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urbandw311er ◴[17 Nov 25 00:10 UTC] No.45949732[source]▶
Even with zero temperature (and some of the latest models don’t allow that) you’re still not absolutely guaranteed deterministic output.
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chpatrick ◴[17 Nov 25 20:26 UTC] No.45957887[source]▶
What does deterministic mean in this case?
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1. jrm4 ◴[19 Nov 25 15:37 UTC] No.45980900[source]▶
Right, I'm using a perhaps loose definition of deterministic here, as in -- "With AI tools, you cannot 100% predict any output based on input, the way you can with most programming."
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2. chpatrick ◴[19 Nov 25 18:16 UTC] No.45982862[source]▶
It's also kind of an impossible request given that AI tools are for generic unpredictable input.