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supportengineer ◴[] No.45957140[source]
I need a new dishwasher. I am considering a German-made Miele.

I’ve read so many horror stories. I don’t think I could consider any other brand.

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tadfisher ◴[] No.45957396[source]
Miele, Bosch, and Speed Queen do the old-school engineering based on failure analysis and have basically the same reliability as the super-simple machines from the 70s and 80s, so 20 years is a common lifespan with outliers in the 30- and 40-year range. If you adjust for inflation, you find that the super-simple machines from the 70s and 80s cost basically the same as machines from these more expensive brands, so if you care about filling landfills with broken appliances, you should probably consider purchasing them and supporting the business model.

No one would make cost-engineered stuff that fails just outside the warranty if people didn't buy it.

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supportengineer ◴[] No.45957498[source]
Speed Queen is the ONLY washer dryer brand I would consider. I currently have a Kenmore set from 2001. Works great.
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1. smiley1437 ◴[] No.45957899[source]
Alliance Laundry which makes Speed Queen recently IPOed:

https://ir.alliancelaundry.com/news-events/press-releases/de...

Once a company goes public they tend to focus more on earnings per quarter, causing decision making to be more short-term.

Not great when, as a consumer, you hope to get a product that will last 20+ years.

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2. robotnikman ◴[] No.45958320[source]
Oh no... better buy one now if you have the chance.