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US House approves bill to end longest government shutdown in history

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15 points elinear | 2 comments | 13 Nov 25 01:43 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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jalapenos ◴[13 Nov 25 02:00 UTC] No.45909552[source]▶
Correct me if wrong, but this looks like a severe own-goal for the democrats? A long shutdown to try and force something - as a minority party, using the senate 60 vote threshold quirk, that they didn't get?
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infamouscow ◴[13 Nov 25 02:49 UTC] No.45909912[source]▶
This is correct.

The Democrats are in a new world. They've lost a cultural and information hegemony they had for 40 years, and thus, the playbook of the past doesn't work (for a variety of reasons).

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bediger4000 ◴[13 Nov 25 02:55 UTC] No.45909956[source]▶
The 48 years from 1932 to 1980, maybe. The US has been decidedly conservative since Reagan. SCOTUS hasn't been liberal since Nixon got Rehnquist as chief justice.
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jalapenos ◴[13 Nov 25 06:49 UTC] No.45911560[source]▶
The US is conservative? Are we talking about the same place that's been the social justice woke ideology fountainhead since forever?

The one where a man can one day declare he's now a woman because he say's so - and that'll get him on the cover of a magazine as a "hero"?

What's your starting point for left - Mao?

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1. cosmicgadget ◴[13 Nov 25 07:17 UTC] No.45911740[source]▶
Wouldn't self-determination of individuals and magazines be at home both with progressives and libertarians?
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2. jalapenos ◴[13 Nov 25 08:50 UTC] No.45912450[source]▶
I mean it'd be at home with lunatic asylums too depending on what you self-determine but yeah sure