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US House approves bill to end longest government shutdown in history

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15 points elinear | 8 comments | 13 Nov 25 01:43 UTC | HN request time: 0.002s | source | bottom
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jalapenos ◴[13 Nov 25 02:00 UTC] No.45909552[source]▶
Correct me if wrong, but this looks like a severe own-goal for the democrats? A long shutdown to try and force something - as a minority party, using the senate 60 vote threshold quirk, that they didn't get?
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infamouscow ◴[13 Nov 25 02:49 UTC] No.45909912[source]▶
This is correct.

The Democrats are in a new world. They've lost a cultural and information hegemony they had for 40 years, and thus, the playbook of the past doesn't work (for a variety of reasons).

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1. bediger4000 ◴[13 Nov 25 02:55 UTC] No.45909956[source]▶
The 48 years from 1932 to 1980, maybe. The US has been decidedly conservative since Reagan. SCOTUS hasn't been liberal since Nixon got Rehnquist as chief justice.
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2. infamouscow ◴[13 Nov 25 02:58 UTC] No.45909980[source]▶
I'm talking about Congress.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_divisions_of_United_Stat...

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3. bediger4000 ◴[13 Nov 25 03:04 UTC] No.45910029[source]▶
The only 40 year stretch on that chart is the House, from 1957-1997.
4. AnimalMuppet ◴[13 Nov 25 03:08 UTC] No.45910055[source]▶
Congress doesn't give them an information hegemony.
5. gdulli ◴[13 Nov 25 03:54 UTC] No.45910423[source]▶
Economically "conservative", socially liberal. The richest among the right get what they want in gaining wealth from the rest, but they lose at preventing acceptance of interracial marriage, homosexuality, etc. because that social progress can't be stopped. But losing those causes is also a win for them in that they wield the fear of it to win votes to stay in power to stay rich.
6. jalapenos ◴[13 Nov 25 06:49 UTC] No.45911560[source]▶
The US is conservative? Are we talking about the same place that's been the social justice woke ideology fountainhead since forever?

The one where a man can one day declare he's now a woman because he say's so - and that'll get him on the cover of a magazine as a "hero"?

What's your starting point for left - Mao?

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7. cosmicgadget ◴[13 Nov 25 07:17 UTC] No.45911740[source]▶
Wouldn't self-determination of individuals and magazines be at home both with progressives and libertarians?
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8. jalapenos ◴[13 Nov 25 08:50 UTC] No.45912450{3}[source]▶
I mean it'd be at home with lunatic asylums too depending on what you self-determine but yeah sure