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    xd1936 ◴[] No.45904129[source]
    I am never handing my phone to a cop.
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    1. bitpush ◴[] No.45904212[source]
    I get what you're saying, but if you think of it what we're doing today - handing over the one and only official piece of document to a) cop b) club bouncer etc.

    They can hold onto it, and never return it. They can deface it. All of that is a possibilty.

    You could argue, a sufficiently locked down phone is a better alternative. If they do something, you'll only lose $$

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    2. barbazoo ◴[] No.45904281[source]
    > They can hold onto it, and never return it. They can deface it. All of that is a possibility.

    But they can't potentially look at your banking app, read private notes, messages and emails, operate your home automation, look at your calendar, etc. if all they have is a plastic card.

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    3. therein ◴[] No.45904288[source]
    I feel exactly the opposite about what you said. The ID is just an ID, my phone is my phone with other stuff in it.
    4. ayntkilove ◴[] No.45904290[source]
    ... and if they hold the document upside down they can see your browser history and with a UV flashlight they can quick scan your app list for intel.
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    6. JoshTriplett ◴[] No.45904501[source]
    If I lose a piece of ID, I've lost a piece of paper/plastic. I'm inconvenienced, but can easily get a replacement and have the original invalidated.
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    7. magnetic ◴[] No.45904929[source]
    They can't do that either with Wallet items. That's kind of the point: you can hand over your phone with a wallet item "unlocked" and visible on the screen, and that's all they'll have access to.
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    8. barbazoo ◴[] No.45905191{3}[source]
    Sure but then you've already given them your phone after which you don't know what happens. Plus it's a lot of leverage for them to have it, e.g. "unlock or you won't get it back".
    9. iamnothere ◴[] No.45905263{3}[source]
    Until they covertly plug it in to the Cellebrite unit back in the patrol car.
    10. 0x457 ◴[] No.45906083[source]
    > have the original invalidated.

    Only for it's "original" use case - traffic laws enforcement. I don't think any other entity can validate if this piece of plastic is invalidated or not. Also, it's not like information on lost ID gets erased when you get a new one: still has your address, DOB and other info that can be misused.

    11. op00to ◴[] No.45906406[source]
    > have the original invalidated.

    I once had three valid drivers' licenses, because my wallet was stolen (later returned), and I left my ID at a bar. All three were valid for use at the same time despite being reported lost/stolen - they had identical barcodes, etc.