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880 points Philpax | 5 comments | 12 Nov 25 17:54 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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jsheard ◴[12 Nov 25 17:57 UTC] No.45903360[source]▶
Frame is obviously the main headline here, but they've also launching a new SteamOS mini-PC and a new controller.

https://store.steampowered.com/sale/steammachine

https://store.steampowered.com/sale/steamcontroller

No prices listed for any of them yet, as far as I can tell.

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marcosscriven ◴[12 Nov 25 18:02 UTC] No.45903433[source]▶
Real shame it’s only 60Hz at 4k. There’s a gap for good 120Hz@4k streaming.

Hoping the next Apple TV will do it.

Edit - updated specs claim it can do this, but it’s limited to HDMI 2.0

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1. jsheard ◴[12 Nov 25 18:06 UTC] No.45903489[source]▶
(rewriting this comment because the spec sheet has seemingly been updated)

Looks like it can do 4k 120hz, but since it's limited to HDMI 2.0 it will have to rely on 4:2:0 chroma subsampling to get there. Unfortunately the lack of HDMI 2.1 might be down to politics, the RDNA3 GPU they're using should support it in hardware, but the HDMI Forum has blocked AMD from releasing an open source HDMI 2.1 implementation.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/02/hdmi-forum-to-amd-no...

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2. PaulHoule ◴[12 Nov 25 18:14 UTC] No.45903621[source]▶
... but isn't it using a wireless dongle to connect to the headset to the PC so HDMI doesn't get involved?

It seems to me the wireless is pretty important. I have an MQ3 and I have the link cable. For software development I pretty much have to plug the MQ3 into my PC and it is not so bad to wander around the living room looking in a Mars boulder from all sides and such.

For games and apps that involve moving around, particularly things like Beat Saber or Supernatural the standalone headset has a huge advantage of having no cable. If I have a choice between buying a game on Steam or the MQ3 store I'm likely to buy the MQ3 game because of the convenience and freedom of standalone. A really good wireless link changes that.

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3. jsheard ◴[12 Nov 25 18:17 UTC] No.45903684[source]▶
> but isn't it using a wireless dongle to connect to the headset to the PC so HDMI doesn't get involved?

I'm talking about the Steam Machine here. In theory you could pipe 4k120 to the headset assuming there's enough wireless bandwidth, yeah.

4. OGWhales ◴[12 Nov 25 19:28 UTC] No.45904997[source]▶
It seems it supports DP 1.4 as well, so perhaps you could get an adapter if your display only supports HDMI 2.1
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5. SchemaLoad ◴[12 Nov 25 23:58 UTC] No.45908653[source]▶
I'm not sure that would work. From what I can tell, the adapters are basically dumb straight through cables, they aren't converting anything. And it's the actual GPU that's outputting a HDMI signal over the Displayport connector, which the adapter than rewires in to a HDMI shaped connector.