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    Meta readies $25B bond sale as soaring AI costs trigger stock sell-off

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    113 points 1vuio0pswjnm7 | 13 comments | 02 Nov 25 05:33 UTC | HN request time: 0.427s | source | bottom
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    asim ◴[02 Nov 25 06:34 UTC] No.45788244[source]▶
    Tens of billions spent on AI data centers. But people still starve across the planet. Amazing.
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    kcaseg ◴[02 Nov 25 06:38 UTC] No.45788266[source]▶
    Last time I commented something very similar thinking it was the least controversial no brainer thing and multiple people reacted as if it was some Leninist ragebait lol
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    1. t0lo ◴[02 Nov 25 06:43 UTC] No.45788293[source]▶
    Conditioning- America is a capitalist social experiment and I mean that literally
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    2. edm0nd ◴[02 Nov 25 07:04 UTC] No.45788381[source]▶
    Seems pretty successful then no for being such a young country. America is literally where all the major tech and internet companies are.
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    3. molteanu ◴[02 Nov 25 07:16 UTC] No.45788440[source]▶
    Where I'm pretty sure that the definition of "successful" that you have in mind is one given by America itself.
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    4. gherkinnn ◴[02 Nov 25 07:22 UTC] No.45788475[source]▶
    "Hub for all the major tech companies" isn't the only metric that matters, not in the face of its current administration. It so is not.
    5. GolfPopper ◴[02 Nov 25 08:07 UTC] No.45788652[source]▶
    Like TSMC and ASML?
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    6. t0lo ◴[02 Nov 25 10:44 UTC] No.45789341{3}[source]▶
    Yep- this is my point- it's becoming far more obvious how the game is being run now everything is going to shit and they're pulling the plug.
    7. CamperBob2 ◴[02 Nov 25 18:00 UTC] No.45792126[source]▶
    One great thing about America is that we won't shoot you at the border for trying to leave.
    8. no_wizard ◴[02 Nov 25 20:32 UTC] No.45793174[source]▶
    A young country that inherited old values, cultural norms, traditions and ethos.

    It’s not like the US rose in a vacuum. It sees impressive on its face and to some extent I believe it is, but it has more to do with being a resource rich nation (lots of plentiful raw material within our borders) and the fact the last time we had a foreign invasion was during the war of 1812.

    We aren’t some near unbelievable anomaly of history, we built on our British roots

    9. yugioh3 ◴[02 Nov 25 22:49 UTC] No.45794130{3}[source]▶
    Both of those were funded by and built off of American technology and investment. TSMC as an outsourcing of American made chips and ASML as a direct result of DoD research.
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    10. senordevnyc ◴[03 Nov 25 01:14 UTC] No.45794961[source]▶
    It's also one of the countries with the highest percentage of people who give to charity and volunteer, fwiw.
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    11. mmooss ◴[03 Nov 25 05:42 UTC] No.45796169[source]▶
    That is partly attributed to being by far the largest single market for much of the 20th century - European countries have at most ~30% of the population - and being the only major economy not destroyed by the end of WWII, which resulted in the US producing half of world GDP at the time.

    US businesses have had a much larger market to sell to, and that attracts investment and talent.

    12. piva00 ◴[03 Nov 25 09:22 UTC] No.45797253[source]▶
    People in the USA have to volunteer to provide social services not provided by the government though, stuff like food banks which many other developed countries have services in place to take care of their citizens.

    Charitable donations follow a similar pattern, the USA is a different system so not really comparable to some other developed countries which have public systems in place to cover these cases.

    13. piva00 ◴[03 Nov 25 09:25 UTC] No.45797275{4}[source]▶
    ASML is responsible for all the engineering side of the research from EUV LLC, painting it as "direct result from DoD research" as to minimise the achievement is way backhanded. Without ASML the whole EUV LLC research would be dead in the water, it's a symbiotic relationship, and the amount of engineering R&D that ASML had to do to actually deploy the technology shouldn't be understated like that.

    I don't think ASML was "funded" by American technology, it's actually ASML who has to pay for licencing...