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You can't refuse to be scanned by ICE's facial recognition app, DHS document say

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574 points nh43215rgb | 1 comments | 01 Nov 25 08:58 UTC | HN request time: 0.233s | source
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hexbin010 ◴[01 Nov 25 13:30 UTC] No.45781498[source]▶
> “ICE officials have told us that an apparent biometric match by Mobile Fortify is a ‘definitive’ determination of a person’s status and that an ICE officer may ignore evidence of American citizenship—including a birth certificate—if the app says the person is an alien,”

This is "computer says no (not a citizen)". Which is horrifying

They've just created an app to justify what they were already doing right? And the argument will be "well it's a super complex app run by a very clever company so it can't be wrong"?

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bko[dead post] ◴[01 Nov 25 16:15 UTC] No.45782848[source]▶
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dpark ◴[01 Nov 25 16:19 UTC] No.45782894[source]▶
> If I was in the country legally I would want the best technology to confirm i am the person I say I am.

And do you believe that some secret ICE app is likely to be that best technology?

I have no reason to believe that ICE has any meaningful biometrics that would identify me as a citizen.

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1. lcnPylGDnU4H9OF ◴[01 Nov 25 23:24 UTC] No.45786422[source]▶
> I have a license and a passport, both which have a picture of me

> an ICE officer may ignore evidence of American citizenship—including a birth certificate—if the app says the person is an alien

You should be less credulous.

> It's not a stretch to say ICE can use this information to confirm I am the person I say I am.

ICE is yelling from the rooftops that they don't give a shit about this. It's a stretch to think they will use this information, regardless of can.