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You can't refuse to be scanned by ICE's facial recognition app, DHS document say

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574 points nh43215rgb | 1 comments | 01 Nov 25 08:58 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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hexbin010 ◴[01 Nov 25 13:30 UTC] No.45781498[source]▶
> “ICE officials have told us that an apparent biometric match by Mobile Fortify is a ‘definitive’ determination of a person’s status and that an ICE officer may ignore evidence of American citizenship—including a birth certificate—if the app says the person is an alien,”

This is "computer says no (not a citizen)". Which is horrifying

They've just created an app to justify what they were already doing right? And the argument will be "well it's a super complex app run by a very clever company so it can't be wrong"?

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bko[dead post] ◴[01 Nov 25 16:15 UTC] No.45782848[source]▶
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dpark ◴[01 Nov 25 16:19 UTC] No.45782894[source]▶
> If I was in the country legally I would want the best technology to confirm i am the person I say I am.

And do you believe that some secret ICE app is likely to be that best technology?

I have no reason to believe that ICE has any meaningful biometrics that would identify me as a citizen.

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1. dpark ◴[01 Nov 25 17:35 UTC] No.45783564[source]▶
The implication of using such an app (“the best technology”) is that it somehow has more accurate information. If the sum total of the information ICE has is just the standard government documents (and it is) then what is the point of this app?

> pretending to understand things

Yes, like pretending not to understand that ICE is intentionally bypassing the due process guaranteed by the constitution.

“ICE officials have told us that an apparent biometric match by Mobile Fortify is a ‘definitive’ determination of a person’s status and that an ICE officer may ignore evidence of American citizenship—including a birth certificate—if the app says the person is an alien,”