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ktallett ◴[] No.45780988[source]
Why exactly have ICE been given limitless power? Facial recognition is at best right more than half the time, but many studies have shown it to be consistently faulty leading to many wrong ID's. What is the point of a database with incorrect biometric data connected to a person?
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fishmicrowaver ◴[] No.45781281[source]
Guarantee Palantir is 'mitigating' those concerns before anyone has them by having a 'process' and 'guardrails' in place, so everyone can convince themselves this is a great thing to do. The decision makers won't even be around by the time a substantial enough number of people are harmed to incur blowback, and by then, people will have gotten rich/promoted.
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XorNot ◴[] No.45781516[source]
You Americans are really going to have to get over trying to blame corporations for all your problems, or expecting them to fix all your problems.

This is a problem from your government, by your government, that you voted for - one way or another. Pretending this problem is originating from anywhere else except the political choices you're making as a nation is denying reality.

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1. spwa4 ◴[] No.45782334[source]
Americans? This is being rolled out all over the west, and was already pervasive everywhere else. China uses "subtle" cameras but there's just so many that you can't help but constantly see them around any city center, although I think I actually prefer them hiding the cameras (certainly better than London atm)

Note that all the facial recognition is being done by governments, which is the entity everyone suggests using to protect against facial recognition.

https://etias.com/articles/eu-biometric-border-checks-begin-...

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4gp7j55zxvo (under the control of the executive)

https://www.politico.eu/article/how-facial-recognition-is-ta... (under the control of the executive)

https://www.biometricupdate.com/202405/police-in-germany-usi...

https://www.reuters.com/technology/italy-outlaws-facial-reco...

The important part about the Italian "ban" is, as with most privacy laws in the EU, the government bans facial recognition for companies, and explicitly allows the government to use it for everything they do)

This is common in the EU. For example, the GPDR guarantees that your medical data isn't used by companies. That sounds great! Except for the exceptions: insurance and health care providers are exempted, courts (even foreign ones) are excempted (and so a judge can subpoena your private medical information for divorce or custody cases), the police is exempted, youth services is exempted, ...