You can't refuse to be scanned by ICE's facial recognition app, DHS document say

Guarantee Palantir is 'mitigating' those concerns before anyone has them by having a 'process' and 'guardrails' in place, so everyone can convince themselves this is a great thing to do. The decision makers won't even be around by the time a substantial enough number of people are harmed to incur blowback, and by then, people will have gotten rich/promoted.

You Americans are really going to have to get over trying to blame corporations for all your problems, or expecting them to fix all your problems.

This is a problem from your government, by your government, that you voted for - one way or another. Pretending this problem is originating from anywhere else except the political choices you're making as a nation is denying reality.

I agree with you, but I think this ignores the structural factors caused by corporations that lead to the election of this government in the first place (multinational corporations lobbying for NAFTA and the resulting deindustrialization of america).

>>> your government, that you voted for - one way or another

No, I didn't, not one way, nor another. I might have had a share of influence over policy in certain statewide elections, but not in most other elections.

I think you are right, but not thinking deeply enough. You point at the government, and the voting that led to it. 100% that's a step in the root cause chain.

But we cannot stop there, and needs ask why. There are structural forces that lead to this government, some of which are corporate. Fox and MSNBC exist to extract wealth from polarization, and have every incentive to drive wedges between us. Meta and X likewise get paid for optimizing engagement and hate drives engagement.

It's not all corporations, but they contribute to structural forces we're have to unwind as we also try to fix the government side too.

I did not vote for this. Some of my neighbors voted for this because they were pushed over the edge by inflammatory social media algorithms, some stayed home for similar reasons.

Corporations absolutely have an effect on all of this, you can bet they'd save time and money by focusing their efforts elsewhere if they thought it was pointless.

Americans? This is being rolled out all over the west, and was already pervasive everywhere else. China uses "subtle" cameras but there's just so many that you can't help but constantly see them around any city center, although I think I actually prefer them hiding the cameras (certainly better than London atm)

Note that all the facial recognition is being done by governments, which is the entity everyone suggests using to protect against facial recognition.

https://etias.com/articles/eu-biometric-border-checks-begin-...

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4gp7j55zxvo (under the control of the executive)

https://www.politico.eu/article/how-facial-recognition-is-ta... (under the control of the executive)

https://www.biometricupdate.com/202405/police-in-germany-usi...

https://www.reuters.com/technology/italy-outlaws-facial-reco...

The important part about the Italian "ban" is, as with most privacy laws in the EU, the government bans facial recognition for companies, and explicitly allows the government to use it for everything they do)

This is common in the EU. For example, the GPDR guarantees that your medical data isn't used by companies. That sounds great! Except for the exceptions: insurance and health care providers are exempted, courts (even foreign ones) are excempted (and so a judge can subpoena your private medical information for divorce or custody cases), the police is exempted, youth services is exempted, ...

The thing though, is that the US government and the successful companies are strong connected.

Networks of companies support political candidates, so there really isn't a true separation between the government's actions and the will of these corporations.

see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporatocracy